Taking out dents

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Hey, what about those slide-hammer things? Ya know, you drill the little hole and put the hook in and then slide the hammer until the dent comes out. Then, solder the hole shut.

Will they work?

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Hey Bloke, do you use a wooden or aluminum bat?
it was fun playing with some of you guys
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Dear Bloke,

Thank you for your answer. That is much appreciated and informative for a beginning tubaïst.

Well I didn't bought the tuba yet, but if I understand you correct I should leave it alone.....

It has a very nice price though.....
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Ok as it is a miraphone 186, would you pay 900 pounds for it? (approx. $1355)
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I'll take that as a yes.... :D

Mmm... I think I do it and take the dents for what they are and take the "OK" job in a while......

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bloke wrote:OK:

DENT ERASER
First, take that big p.o.s. cylindrical steel "handle" thing and toss it in the drawer

Often, using two of the (stacked) magnets (held directly in my HAND) and choosing the "dent balls" (and certainly not just limiting myself to those four in the "set") much more by MASS that by SHAPE, I can do quite a bit...
sounds like basically changing it so it's closer to the MDRS I was talking about... :P :roll:
I think I might end up as a grumpy old man when I get old...
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bloke wrote:
tubaguy9 wrote:sounds like basically changing it so it's closer to the MDRS I was talking about... :P :roll:
:| You're probably right...

http://desert.marssociety.org
http://www.magneticdentremovalsystem.com/

These things are VERY useful tools...I've taken things that are pretty bad and gotten them way better, and the tools you can use help more than what you are given with the Dent Eraser. There are WAY more balls you can use with one of these than the dent eraser too.
Plus, "piggyback" a pair of the magnets and it can do stuff through a Mirafone bow guard... :shock:
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Bloke... you need to quit using those 'wussy' magnets! Git yerself three of those 1 5/8" x 1" jobbies from Wondermagnet.com and shove 'em into a piece of reinforced vinyl tubing. I can get those dents out of those reinforced bottom bows as long as there's not much 'air' between the bow and the guard.

If those guards are REALLY wrinkled up.... take 'em off and toss 'em. ... straighten out the brass with the magnets and then stick on some of that automotive side molding to give it some protection.

Restore? Nope. ... but darned playable and pretty!

All joking aside, though.... I find LOTS of problems when I just go ahead and take a horn apart for dent removal. You know.... some of those solder joints don't even have solder in 'em! :shock: Yessir... right from the factory. :)
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Daniel C. Oberloh wrote: You just need a bunch of this stuff and maybe some training and experience. if you want good results. :wink:

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Good luck. :)

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tubamirum wrote:Hey Bloke, do you use a wooden or aluminum bat?
Can't ... resist ....

I'm guessing that he uses a CC BAT, when he uses a BAT, but I'm also guessing that he doesn't feel he needs a BAT most of the time, being able to get the results with lesser tools.

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ToobaNoob wrote:The thing I can't figure out is why is this Todd S. Malicoate guy such an A$$?!? What in the world does dent repair have to do with uploading photos? In fact, I've NEVER seen a post from you that was helpful. You do nothing but snipe and take pot shots at people and add ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to the forums.

Go crawl back in your hole!
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For crying out loud, you just joined the forum. Surely (with just a bit of effort) you can find ONE post of mine that was just a little bit helpful to someone, somewhere. If not, feel free to use the "Foe" feature and you won't be bothered by my sniping and pot shots for the duration of your stay here. Have a very nice day.
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ben wrote:Personnally I can't stop laughing when I read Todd's posts... that avatar is priceless!
Ya. This is about the cheapest entertainment going, isn't it?

I don't agree with most of the radio talk show hosts, either. But... they sure are entertaining. :)
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JJJimmink wrote:Dear Bloke,

Thank you for your answer. That is much appreciated and informative for a beginning tubaïst.

Well I didn't bought the tuba yet, but if I understand you correct I should leave it alone.....

It has a very nice price though.....
FWIW, my 186 looks worse than that and still plays just fine. If the horn you pictured plays well that's a good price!
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TubaTinker wrote: All joking aside, though.... I find LOTS of problems when I just go ahead and take a horn apart for dent removal. You know.... some of those solder joints don't even have solder in 'em! :shock: Yessir... right from the factory. :)
The Mirafone 1290 I owned for several year had this problem. I had to work decently hard to play that horn but always got a great sound on it.

One day I took it in to get some dents removed and a brace soldered back on....

Behold...the BELL wasnt soldered into the body! :shock:

I had the tech solder that thing back in, and BAM....that horn was a BEAUTY...and really, if I still had it and came into some money, I really would have sent it to a tech to be restored...fully...because it was a REAL great player.

Point is...it's amazing what you find with horns when taken to a tech!
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MaryAnn wrote:
tubamirum wrote:Hey Bloke, do you use a wooden or aluminum bat?
Can't ... resist ....

I'm guessing that he uses a CC BAT, when he uses a BAT, but I'm also guessing that he doesn't feel he needs a BAT most of the time, being able to get the results with lesser tools.

MA
Too many mixed--but amusing--metaphors. Here's a solution for beginning tuba dent removal 101-not BATS but rolling pins, drumsticks, and a lubricant. Bedknobs and broomsticks would be worth experimenting with also.
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