Soon, very soon. You will be mine.
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Re: Soon, very soon. You will be mine.
Looks very cool. The opening looks a little tight, but if Harv can put it on and play it then most people should be able to.
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Re: Soon, very soon. You will be mine.
Soon ou can join the local biker club. You got the bike already, and now tell them you are getting yourself a hell-icon.
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Harv does great work. I have travelled the world and have met few people who match Harv's integrety and skill.
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If that's a 4J cluster... have Harv double-check the pitch if you want to use it in place of a 1-3 combination. Most of the 4J's I've seen are horribly flat on the fourth valve circuit. It's a piece of cake to fix and can be a pain in the butt if it's flat.
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Re: Soon, very soon. You will be mine.
TubaTinker wrote:If that's a 4J cluster... have Harv double-check the pitch if you want to use it in place of a 1-3 combination. Most of the 4J's I've seen are horribly flat on the fourth valve circuit. It's a piece of cake to fix and can be a pain in the butt if it's flat.
It may not be that easy to just paste the 4 valve cluster directly onto the helicon without redirecting (some of) the 4th valve circuit. It can be an advantage to have 4th valve longer which gives better intonation on 2-4 ,and 1-4.
Harv can make it (to taste) however Mr. Schlepporello wants it.
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.... Already done...I had to remove 8inces of the 4th loop to make it play in tune.TubaTinker wrote:If that's a 4J cluster... have Harv double-check the pitch if you want to use it in place of a 1-3 combination. Most of the 4J's I've seen are horribly flat on the fourth valve circuit. It's a piece of cake to fix and can be a pain in the butt if it's flat.
Thanks Harv.
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Good job, Harv! I figured you had probably seen that scenario before but thought I would throw it 'out there', anyway. Why Conn built them that way is beyond my imagination.Harvey Hartman wrote:.... Already done...I had to remove 8inces of the 4th loop to make it play in tune.TubaTinker wrote:If that's a 4J cluster... have Harv double-check the pitch if you want to use it in place of a 1-3 combination. Most of the 4J's I've seen are horribly flat on the fourth valve circuit. It's a piece of cake to fix and can be a pain in the butt if it's flat.
Thanks Harv.
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Isn’t that the tuning concept advocated by the other Harv, the prominent player?bloke wrote:My best guess is that Conn's concept was to go with the typically too-long 1st and 3rd valve loops (classic American three-valve configuration) and MOSTLY play the instrument as a 3-valve tuba. In their mind (again, I'm guessing) the 4th valve would ONLY be used for the low range... ie: 2-4 low E, 1-4 low Eb, etc...
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Looks like this one will be made out of several Texas Longhorns. Looks good!
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Looks really good!
You will have to train your roadie thoroughly, so that she won’t damage it when she carries to and from your church.
Klaus
You will have to train your roadie thoroughly, so that she won’t damage it when she carries to and from your church.
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Yeah, they do that ...schlepporello wrote:I think she's subcontracting that labor...............to me.imperialbari wrote:Looks really good!
You will have to train your roadie thoroughly, so that she won’t damage it when she carries to and from your church.
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Re: Soon, very soon. You will be mine.
schlepporello wrote:Harvey finished the buffing today!
gorgeous
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Nice! Put some racing stripes and flames on it and make it a HELL-icon! I'm sure it would be a big hit on Sundays... 
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More tabasco on your Sunday morning breakfast burgers! That goes for all 5 of them.schlepporello wrote:I need a tiny smoke generator to hide down inside of the bell. Just a little something to pour alittle smoke over the edge of the bell.
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He's at the Burning Man Festival, I wonder what year.bloke wrote:David Silverman (one of The Simpsons creators) is the one that you see on the internet with the fire coming out of his sousaphone. I didn't know it was him until he told me...I met him three years ago at the New Orleans Jazz Fest right after I played and was heading for the dressing room.
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Re: Soon, very soon. You will be mine.
Hey schlepp, I saw your pix and gave harv a call. I had to drop off a trombone for a new spit valve and he let me play the horn. Plays Great! wanna trade?
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Re: Soon, very soon. You will be mine.
My, that's a fine looking tuba.
... and I suppose that explains why, on my 4 valve tubas, the slides on my 3rd and 4th valves have always been out near to falling off - except my Conn sousaphone, where 4 is out less than an inch.bloke wrote: My best guess is that Conn's concept was to go with the typically too-long 1st and 3rd valve loops (classic American three-valve configuration) and MOSTLY play the instrument as a 3-valve tuba. In their mind (again, I'm guessing) the 4th valve would ONLY be used for the low range... ie: 2-4 low E, 1-4 low Eb, etc...
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Any log on where it had been? Any compensation for the damage?
The important thing of course, that you have a playable helicon.
Personally I find rotary and piston basses very different with my preference being pistons. Of course you have the little piston Yamaha, but how about playing this much bigger piston instrument?
The wall decoration of Harvey’s still puzzles me. With your wall hanger I have to ask whether it is a native American weaving?
Good it is with you now!
Klaus
The important thing of course, that you have a playable helicon.
Personally I find rotary and piston basses very different with my preference being pistons. Of course you have the little piston Yamaha, but how about playing this much bigger piston instrument?
The wall decoration of Harvey’s still puzzles me. With your wall hanger I have to ask whether it is a native American weaving?
Good it is with you now!
Klaus
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I am a Pa. Dutchman (German) What you see in my Pictures is a Amish Guilt( Hex Sign Guilt)and the bottom of my Grandfather Elam's Weather vane Off his Barn. Its a Rooster & a folk art Crow with a snowman Head in its mouth?? Cindy & I have a lot of Old stuff from our Grandprents. Cindy keeps me around TOO !! Talking about Old stuff.
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Thanks, Harvey!
I got the quilt thing, as I have been married to a quilter. I cannot sew two stitches in a row myself, but I was the one doing the colour design, when the available cloths were laid out.
Now I also get the crow and the snowball, but the thing behind still puzzles me. Almost has the colours of a reindeer fur, but the shapes on the left rafter look like coming from a plant.
I guessed your German roots. Does your use of the term Dutch tell an Amish connection?
German names in the US follow certain patterns of change. Ike’s family was Eisenhauer (literally iron banger), yours was Hartmann (could be interpreted tough guy). Quite fitting for somebody making himself a tuba allowing him to blow up the skirts of the ladies old Marilyn Monroe style.

Klaus
I got the quilt thing, as I have been married to a quilter. I cannot sew two stitches in a row myself, but I was the one doing the colour design, when the available cloths were laid out.
Now I also get the crow and the snowball, but the thing behind still puzzles me. Almost has the colours of a reindeer fur, but the shapes on the left rafter look like coming from a plant.
I guessed your German roots. Does your use of the term Dutch tell an Amish connection?
German names in the US follow certain patterns of change. Ike’s family was Eisenhauer (literally iron banger), yours was Hartmann (could be interpreted tough guy). Quite fitting for somebody making himself a tuba allowing him to blow up the skirts of the ladies old Marilyn Monroe style.
Klaus





