3 CC/BBb Tubas?
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Re: 3 CC/BBb Tubas?
Probably:
a 188
a 345
a 621CC
the smallest is debatable though, definitely a piston, but C/Bb doesn't matter to me
a 188
a 345
a 621CC
the smallest is debatable though, definitely a piston, but C/Bb doesn't matter to me
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Holton 345 BBb 4V
Miraphone 188-5U CC
Meinl-Weston 45S F
Holton 345 BBb 4V
Miraphone 188-5U CC
Meinl-Weston 45S F
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Re: 3 CC/BBb Tubas?
An interesting side question... apart from the 184/185, what are some other "pro-level" 3/4 rotary CC tubas?
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Re: 3 CC/BBb Tubas?
Would you consider the Cerveny "piggy" to be professional?bort wrote:An interesting side question... apart from the 184/185, what are some other "pro-level" 3/4 rotary CC tubas?
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Re: 3 CC/BBb Tubas?
The ones I have suit me:
621 - baby bear
2341 - momma bear
36J - poppa bear
all in BBb.
For a routine gig, one is too small, one is too big, and one is *just right*.
621 - baby bear
2341 - momma bear
36J - poppa bear
all in BBb.
For a routine gig, one is too small, one is too big, and one is *just right*.
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Re: 3 CC/BBb Tubas?
1. Arnold's York
2. Kanstul 90
3. a nice F tuba
2. Kanstul 90
3. a nice F tuba
I think I might end up as a grumpy old man when I get old...
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Re: 3 CC/BBb Tubas?
Wouldn't it ever be nice to have something other than a huge tuba? I like small horns generally, but I do like at least some big tubas.KiltieTuba wrote:Conn 26J/27J
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Re: 3 CC/BBb Tubas?
Cerveny 603 "piggy"
Kanstul 90 CC
Willson 3050RZ
All CC with 5 valves right hand and a flat whole step fifth valve. Main tuning slide kickers for left hand on the rotary horns.
Kanstul 90 CC
Willson 3050RZ
All CC with 5 valves right hand and a flat whole step fifth valve. Main tuning slide kickers for left hand on the rotary horns.
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Re: 3 CC/BBb Tubas?
I have mine already. The only horn out there that might cause me to swap from what is in my sig is a bruckner for my 5/4 163. But I would have to think long and hard about it. I like what I have. I have found each horn to have optimal utility for concerts I have played this year. I have used each in both large and small ensemble performances to great effect.
Ben Vokits
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Nautilus Brass Quintet
Alex 164C, 163C, 155F; HB1P
NYC/Philly area Freelancer
Nautilus Brass Quintet
Alex 164C, 163C, 155F; HB1P
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Re: 3 CC/BBb Tubas?
I'll say the following:
3/4-Conn 2J
4/4-HB2 (hopefully an old one without the plastic rotors)
5/4+-Gronitz PCK
3/4-Conn 2J
4/4-HB2 (hopefully an old one without the plastic rotors)
5/4+-Gronitz PCK
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Re: 3 CC/BBb Tubas?
You bet! I'd also consider the Yamaha 621 and the Conn 2J and 3J excellent 3/4 CCs. Rudy Meinl's 3/4 is a bit on the large side, but it is beyond exceptional!!TheHatTuba wrote:Would you consider the Cerveny "piggy" to be professional?bort wrote:An interesting side question... apart from the 184/185, what are some other "pro-level" 3/4 rotary CC tubas?
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Re: 3 CC/BBb Tubas?
The PT-3 may be considered another 3/4 size rotary CC
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Re: 3 CC/BBb Tubas?
I have no problem with the Piggy, not at all -- just seems like a bigger horn/sound than something like a 184 or 185. The 2J, 3J, and 621 are all cool too, but I was specifically asking about rotary horns.
I was just thinking though... it seems like for a lot of people, their 3/4 rotary CC tuba is actually an F tuba!
I was just thinking though... it seems like for a lot of people, their 3/4 rotary CC tuba is actually an F tuba!
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Re: 3 CC/BBb Tubas?
I've got mine but it's taken awhile to get them.King Monster Rotary, King 2341. and a Conn 5J. All Bb of course.I also have a Martin Mammoth and an old style detachable King with the 19 and 22 in. raincatchers and the bell front. Ed
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Mmmmmm.... King Monster....EdFirth wrote:I've got mine but it's taken awhile to get them.King Monster Rotary, King 2341. and a Conn 5J. All Bb of course.I also have a Martin Mammoth and an old style detachable King with the 19 and 22 in. raincatchers and the bell front. Ed
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Re: 3 CC/BBb Tubas?
For me, my PT-15 F now substitutes for a 4/4 CC - with its large bell throat no problem with breath of low register. From my play testing, a Norwegian Star Eb could also well substitute and of course in Britain 3+1 Eb like the Besson 981 usually fulfil the role of both F and smaller CCbort wrote:I was just thinking though... it seems like for a lot of people, their 3/4 rotary CC tuba is actually an F tuba!
Jonathan "who thinks the pitch of tuba only really matters to the player"
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Re: 3 CC/BBb Tubas?
The more I think of it, the piggy is probably better classified as a professional 4/4. But it's an inexact science.
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