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Tuba Exchange TE-2144
Specifications
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Key BBb
Size 4/4
Valve Type 4 Piston
Bell Diameter 19.75"
Bore Diameter .670"
Height 34"
Finish Lacquer
King 2341 Clone?
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UTSAtuba
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Ken Herrick
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Re: King 2341 Clone?
Then again,might it be a webpic of a messed up King 2341?????bloke wrote:It looks like a "messed up" webpic of a King 2341. I wonder if that's what it is...??
If it is Russian made, it might be a Tsar 1432.
Quick, somebody buy one and give us a report!!
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imperialbari
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Re: King 2341 Clone?
Why would a King 2341 clone have a 0.670" bore?
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Dan Schultz
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Re: King 2341 Clone?
imperialbari wrote:Why would a King 2341 clone have a 0.670" bore?
Sure looks like a King! What's .018" between friends? Probably a typo.
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Current 'stable'... Rudolf Meinl 5/4, Marzan (by Willson) euph, King 2341, Alphorn, and other strange stuff.
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SousaSaver
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Re: King 2341 Clone?
Does it play like a King?
I wonder if Vince will sell me just the bell? Hmmm.....
I wonder if Vince will sell me just the bell? Hmmm.....
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iiipopes
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Re: King 2341 Clone?
Sure, if it's off a tuba damaged in shipping. That's how my 186 got an upright St Pete bell to go with the stock recording bell.BRSousa wrote:I wonder if Vince will sell me just the bell? Hmmm.....
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Re: King 2341 Clone?
Oh come on...really? Another clone? 
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Michael Bush
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Re: King 2341 Clone?
Might as well get used to it. It's amazing it has taken this long for this dynamic to take hold in the instrument manufacturing world. Recording artists, computer hardware and software makers, and higher education (no doubt others as well) have been dealing with it for quite a while. Good, bad, or indifferent, the way it has been isn't the way it's going to be.
Just ask Apple Computer, who has been doing R & D for Microsoft for decades.
Just ask Apple Computer, who has been doing R & D for Microsoft for decades.
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Ken Herrick
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Re: King 2341 Clone?
"Cloning" is nothing new. According to Fred Gottlieb, the King "monsters" were a clone of a Cerveny. In '67 I purchased a very old Cerveny "Made in Bohemia" BBb 4rv from Fred to use while my King was being rebuilt. He stated that H.N. WHite had borrowed it to use as a pattern for making " a large rotary valve BBb" and that the Monsters were the result. In that case the clone came out much better than the original.
Not a big deal, really. Imagine the horror Mugwump felt when he found somebody had cloned his wheel before he could get his patent approved!
Not a big deal, really. Imagine the horror Mugwump felt when he found somebody had cloned his wheel before he could get his patent approved!
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