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Help needed with mouthpiece

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Hi Guys,

Last saterday I bought a Miraphone 289 (see picture). I traded my Dalyan reference Tuba in, wow what a difference in sound :shock:

Next to the miraphone is a Kalison Eb which I play with a Perantucci PT-24+, but this isn't the best match for the Mira I believe. It performs very well on the Eb, but not great on the Mira. Now I have two other MP's a denis wick 3L and a conn Helleberg copy, but these are not great either. (It could also be me, because it is a new instrument and I have to get used to it...)

So far the Perantucci is the best, but at what direction can I search for a mouthpiece for my new Tuba? Does any body have tips? That is much appreciated.

Kind regards, Joost
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Awesome new tuba! I tried one of those a few years ago, and it was great!

There are dozens and dozens of options, but one starting point could be to try a Miraphone mouthpiece... looks like they ship these tubas with a TU-33 mouthpiece. Try one of those?
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Hi Bort,

Yes thanks!

Mmm that is actually a logical choice which I did not think off.....

No I did not try that one, but I will. Thanks for the tip!
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Am I correct in assuming from your name you're from the east? (I grew up in Twente)

I've found a problem with this board in this respect is that it is rather U.S.-centered, and the advice will include a lot of U.S. mouthpiece makers. I'd really, really love to get a Blokepiece, or a Mike Finn, or a Giddings & Webster, but previous experiences with shipping & customs keep me from even trying to order them.

If you believe in his methods you could pay Henk Rensink a visit, at his home in Apeldoorn or one of the many places around the country, and get professional, personal advice.
http://www.henkrensink.nl/nl/home/monds ... n-wanneer/
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I play the Miraphone 187 and in general I like the bowl(isch) shaped mouthpieces best. I also played the 186 and liked bowl(isch) mouthpieces also best on that one.

Currently I play the PT-88. It's big and not very easy to play but quite manageable and it gives me the sound I like.
I just received the Bloke symphony and so far I like it, but I need to give it some more time to make my decision.
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Double post :oops:
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Hey more people from the netherlands here!
corbasse wrote:Am I correct in assuming from your name you're from the east? (I grew up in Twente)
No I live near Haarlem, but you are correct that the name is coming from the east...
corbasse wrote:but previous experiences with shipping & customs keep me from even trying to order them.
Yes I know what you mean, sometimes it is more than the MP itself....

Ok thanks for the tip both!
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JJJimmink wrote:...I live near Haarlem...
In that case you could mail/call Terpstra in Badhoevedorp and see what mouthpieces they have available, and see if you can try a bunch.
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I'm not really a Kali fan, but that is an interesting looking Eb. Got a bigger picture of it?
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Hi Bob,

Here it is. I know that someone else on the Tubenet has got the same, but it is not a very common Eb tuba....
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Thank you!
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Hi, I wouldn't recommend Henk Rensink. I went there for a trombone mouthpiece, didn't work for me. A little later I contacted Doug Elliott and after 4 years I'm still playing on his mouthpiece (which very far off Henk Rensink's recommendation).

I suggest you visit a store with enough mouthpieces to test (Adams, steenbeek perhaps, Van der Glas). Perhaps the yamaha Jim Self model is of your liking?
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You need a trial time for your choice. The Klier series is good quality middle of the road and not expensive. Look for a shop in NL where they have them available (sorry don't know about the shops over there), start with 3B or 4B and then gradually change rim diameter and/or cup depth, until you find your match. Everything else is just at random. The Jim Self is a nice mouthpiece, sizewise similar to the Klier 3C.

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