Need raincatcher information please

[rodgeman]

I was on a day trip on 9/10 with my family to Wickenberg, AZ. We stopped in a one room schoolhouse museum.

I saw this in a corner:

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I thought it was a raincatcher. After asking I re-positioned the bell to this:

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It has a Frank Holton mouthpiece. It reads Carl Fischer; New York, USA; American [something]. I could not really shine it to see.
The picture of the makers mark did not turn out well as I only had my phone and was not expecting a tuba adventure.

It seems small for a BBb. I am not sure. Again I only had a few minutes with the tuba.

The curator thinks it is from the 1930's. I searched and could not find information on Carl Fischer - New York.
I am doing this for the museum. Any help is appreciated.

The valves were sticky. I think with valve oil they would work well. The curator and my wife said the tone was really nice.

[rodgeman]

Thanks - it could very well be. Did Carl Fischer rebrand Holtons?

[Frank Ortega]

I have seen BBb tubas marked Carl Fishers that were actually Yorks. But I think Pan American/Conn also made stencils for Carl Fisher. The ferruls don't look like Holton.

A closer look at the valves might also show some signs of which company made this beauty.

Frank

[rodgeman]

I have seen BBb tubas marked Carl Fishers that were actually Yorks. But I think Pan American/Conn also made stencils for Carl Fisher. The ferruls don't look like Holton.

A closer look at the valves might also show some signs of which company made this beauty.

Frank

Unfortunately I did not get a picture of the valves. Next trip.

Thanks for the info.

[iiipopes]

EVERYBODY at one time or another made stencils for Carl Fisher. As for this raincatcher, I'm with bloke -- I'm thinking Holton. The Holton mouthpiece with it has a better than 50/50 chance of being the original mouthpiece.