ITEA 2011

[Michael Bush]

I think that material that is "only of interest to specific players" should be eliminated,
but material that is "only of interest to me, me, me" should be expanded.

Speaking of suggestions, I wish this site had a "like" or "thanks" button, so there would be a way to appreciate a great post like this without piling extra posts into the thread.

[PMeuph]

Even though I have posted this elsewhere, I will post my idea again here.

I would see it as preferable to put the scholarly articles online and to put the "general articles" in print. This way everyone would have access to all the resources they need and there could be advertising with the the printed version. This would also entice people to subscribe to the printed version.

(If anyone is wondering, online periodicals are still considered as equal to printed versions if they are peer-reviewed. Also, the online format allows one to add sound clips, videos and more musical examples)

An example of this can be found with Society for Music Theory. They have two academic publications: Music Theory Spectrum and Music Theory Online. The later being accessible to everyone but also being a peer-reviewed publication.
The same model could be used by this community. The advantages of having scholarly articles in print online are numerous: It is Cheaper!; It is more accessible to everyone; It provides a medium in which more formats can be used. (Colour pictures, More pictures, Multiple sound files, Videos, Online Simulations....etc.

This would also leave more room the printed version of the journal to become more like a "Magazine" and less of a "Journal." (Which seems to be the direction that members on this board want to take)
(Fwiw, It might be worthwhile to contact other music scholars, (Musicologists, Theorists, Performance Practice Scholars, Ethnomusicologists and have them chime in their ideas on other publication venues for Tuba/Euphonium scholars. There are many other journals (ie. over 100 that could possibly fit the bill for some of the studies that tuba/euph scholars. (Although I have not looked at each issue in print, I have found very few articles in other journals that mention the tuba/euphonium))

Lasty, the conciliation between scholars, performers and academics in the Tuba/Euph community is not an easy task.(As everyone here surely knows) The only way I feel it is possible is by diversifying the target audience
of the main publication and making sure that everyone knows that. Some of the posts one this forum would/could make excellent articles, if tweaked slightly and made into an article. (I am thinking of a description of Brian Kane's Stealth Tuba,of Dan Oberloh's Repair's that are posted here, of Art Hovey's Shipping case... and many many others) These would/could be made into articles that everyone needs to have at home. Some of the topics on this board are treated over and over every couple months, which is fine, however, it would be great if someone could put them in a periodical that would be easy to access and that would provide a clear method for doing stuff.

Just my 2 cents.

[BAtlas]

If you read carefully on tromboneexcertps.org, you will realize that it was Sett Vatt's, the webmaster, doctoral dissertation. Maybe the same thing could be
done by an academic in the tuba community. (I even read that part of the funding was provided by an academic institution)...(There is also
a paper that explains his rationale behind the project that can be found on Proquest)

Yes I am aware of this, I actually did part of my undergrad at said academic institution. However, TromboneExcerpts.org is not alone. There is also HornExcerpts.org.
If the tuba community is so anxious to be as legitimate as the other instruments, then I would point to this as a shortcoming in our Orchestral Excerpt
Educational resources. I was just bringing it up that the ITEA could try to fill in this educational shortcoming as opposed to letting it fall to independent sources (because
when I'm getting to doctoral school if someone hasn't done it yet I might just have to).

If it makes anyone feel better, I still haven't found trumpetexcerpts.org.

[PMeuph]

Why not save a few trees and put it ALL online?


Ken

Or that.... But, I still think it could be good to separate the journal in 2 distinct streams. 1. Academic, Peer-Reviewed 2. General, Hobby-esque and as diversified as the membership.

[king2ba]

Yes I am aware of this, I actually did part of my undergrad at said academic institution. However, TromboneExcerpts.org is not alone. There is also HornExcerpts.org.
If the tuba community is so anxious to be as legitimate as the other instruments, then I would point to this as a shortcoming in our Orchestral Excerpt
Educational resources. I was just bringing it up that the ITEA could try to fill in this educational shortcoming as opposed to letting it fall to independent sources (because
when I'm getting to doctoral school if someone hasn't done it yet I might just have to).

If it makes anyone feel better, I still haven't found trumpetexcerpts.org.

I actually volunteered directly to a top level ITEA person to do just this two years ago and was told that they had someone already working on it. Guess they got delayed. LV is right, try to get involved and you'll get "thanks, but no thanks", unless you are trying to get tenure.

[T. J. Ricer]

If it makes anyone feel better, I still haven't found trumpetexcerpts.org.

Here it is: http://tasteebros.screamtrumpet.com/screw.htm#below

[opus37]

There are some good ideas here, but, beer reviews are better left to other publications. I think you should make a list of your audience groups. Beginners, pros, teachers, intermediate/community band players, and college related. Ask the question, do you have something regularly (not every issue mind you) but regularly for each audience? There are universal topics, such as maintenance and repair (or restore), equipment reviews (mouth pieces are always a topic of discussion), recordings or music or pedology. Try to have these topics meet the level/interest of the audiences.

Thanks for listening, I will renew my membership to give you a chance to implement the changes.

[TonyTuba]

Dr. Euph

[BAtlas]

Here it is: http://tasteebros.screamtrumpet.com/screw.htm#below" target="_blank

I am terrified and laughing at the same time, thank you.