Science or silly mouthpiece?

arminhachmer · Post by **arminhachmer** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:20 am

How do we feel about this mouthpiece 'development?'
Some one in England makes these custom shaped to your chops.
Hm...i wonder..

Armin

ginnboonmiller · Post by **ginnboonmiller** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:22 pm

Yeah! Seriously, do you think this an appropriate place to discuss tuba gear? I mean, geez!

TheHatTuba · Post by **TheHatTuba** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:25 pm

ginnboonmiller wrote:Yeah! Seriously, do you think this an appropriate place to discuss tuba gear? I mean, geez!

The point is, if you have questions about someone's PERSONAL gear, ask the USER and not ask other people if it is a "silly" piece of equipment.

ginnboonmiller · Post by **ginnboonmiller** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:27 pm

TheHatTuba wrote:
ginnboonmiller wrote:Yeah! Seriously, do you think this an appropriate place to discuss tuba gear? I mean, geez!
The point is, if you have questions about someone's PERSONAL gear, ask the USER and not ask other people if it is a "silly" piece of equipment.

Wait, don't you start a thread about a brand of tuba every time someone posts about getting one?

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:36 pm

"Bad form" on tubenet? Oh, the horrors...!

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 12:56 pm

arminhachmer wrote:How do we feel about this mouthpiece 'development?'
Some one in England makes these custom shaped to your chops.
Hm...i wonder..
Armin

Hi, Armin!

I've never seen one of these mouthpieces. But... I have played next to a fellow who used an 'asymmetric' mouthpiece. Those seem designed for range and LOUD! http://www.asymmetric-mouthpiece.com/john_lynch.htm

Different strokes for different folks. I can't say anything bad about stuff i don't know about.

TheHatTuba · Post by **TheHatTuba** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:14 pm

ginnboonmiller wrote:
TheHatTuba wrote:
ginnboonmiller wrote:Yeah! Seriously, do you think this an appropriate place to discuss tuba gear? I mean, geez!
The point is, if you have questions about someone's PERSONAL gear, ask the USER and not ask other people if it is a "silly" piece of equipment.
Wait, don't you start a thread about a brand of tuba every time someone posts about getting one?

Do I call it silly? Not to mention that there are very few "one-of-a-kind-type" tubas out there. I am sure that more people have Alex tubas (and whatever else i've posted) than conforming mouthpieces

sloan · Post by **sloan** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:26 pm

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:34 pm

Everybody's in a bad mood. Lighten up, people!

This is a Doug Elliott mouthpiece with a custom-carved rim by Art Hovey. For him, it helps him maintain a low-pressure seal given the shape of his mouth. Art is not the silly type, and if you want to take on his science, let us know how that turns out.

But I don't think this is a science issue. I think it's a matter of someone willing to experiment with tailoring something to his particular needs. I suspect he would have abandoned the idea had it not worked. But I can assure you that it works for him. Whether it would work for you or anyone else is an open question.

Rick "figuring Art's self-image is justifiably strong enough to withstand such challenges without our defensiveness" Denney

Doug Elliott · Post by **Doug Elliott** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:10 pm

I'm not sure how England entered the picture... I've been there, that must be it.

I made a tall rim blank out of Delrin for Art and he shaped it himself. The rest of it is my R cup and some shank that I don't make any more. It was a long time ago, and as for whether it works, I think Art's playing speaks for itself.

I have done similar modifications for other players who have specific issues of facial structure, like a narrow jaw with a tight curvature, or a tooth that protrudes. That sort of thing can cause pressure points that can seriously impede playing progress.

arminhachmer · Post by **arminhachmer** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:20 pm

Hi, Armin!

I've never seen one of these mouthpieces. But... I have played next to a fellow who used an 'asymmetric' mouthpiece. Those seem designed for range and LOUD! http://www.asymmetric-mouthpiece.com/john_lynch.htm

Different strokes for different folks. I can't say anything bad about stuff i don't know about.[/quote]

Hi Dan: Thanks for the link. I saw somewhere that a man in England was selling these. His daughter was also in business with him. I do not recall
any detail other than i asked for a quote and got no reply.

In this thread, i was hoping someone had experience with this type of MP
and was willing to share his findings. Are these designs catching on ??

Just for fun im a going to find a cheese discussion group and ask if folks feel Limburger is a superior cheese or just a lot of hype. Think i will get yelled at there too?

I did have a few laughs on this tubenet the last couple of days.

The pix i took last month at the Alexander store in Mainz and their new plant in Hechtsheim will not be posted here. I might be accused of showing
bad form or grass commercial promotion.

Think i will go blow my tuba, with an adapter in the leadpipe .

Armin

arminhachmer · Post by **arminhachmer** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:26 pm

sloan wrote:

Thank You Sloan..
oh yes, i do like CURVES

Armin

arminhachmer · Post by **arminhachmer** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:39 pm

I stumbled on a site in England some time ago. These were commercial, custom
mouthpieces offered for sale. I can see the value in terms of custom adaptation, no doubt.

I think that mouthpiece configuration and tuba combinations are complex enough without adding a further variable without a trial.

It would be nice to know the cost.
Armin

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 11:31 pm

arminhachmer wrote:It would be nice to know the cost.

Rick "http://www.dougelliottmouthpieces.com/prices.html" Denney

arminhachmer · Post by **arminhachmer** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:59 am

Thank You Doug. I did not know you made these and i used your picture thinking
it had come from a UK site, i can no longer find. I did enquire about the cost of this service from England which involved some sort of measuring concept but never received a reply. I hope you got a bit of publicity from this and you certainly appear to have plenty of support from your friends here.
Armin

arminhachmer · Post by **arminhachmer** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:03 am

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Rick "http://www.dougelliottmouthpieces.com/prices.html" Denney[/quote]

Thank You Rick. I enjoyed Doug's site.
Armin

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:06 pm

I thought for a moment you were all talking about these, designed by a brass-playing physician:

http://www.wedgemouthpiece.com/" target="_blank

Rick Denney · Post by **Rick Denney** » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:02 pm

arminhachmer wrote:Thank You Doug. I did not know you made these and i used your picture thinking
it had come from a UK site, i can no longer find.

The picture comes from here:

http://galvanizedjazz.com/tuba.html

It's a web site many of the old timers on this forum are all familiar with, and sometimes tend to think everybody knows it.

Rick "thinking you'll enjoy reading this one, too" Denney

circusboy · Post by **circusboy** » Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:03 pm

It doesn't appear from Doug's site that the sort of shape Art uses is regularly available. . . .

Kevin Hendrick · Post by **Kevin Hendrick** » Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:57 pm

circusboy wrote:It doesn't appear from Doug's site that the sort of shape Art uses is regularly available. . . .

If you click on the link in the post above yours, you'll find the answers you're looking for.

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