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What is the bore size of your Eb or F "cimbasso" ?

.650" - .656" bore / 16.5mm
3
25%
.669" / 17mm
0
No votes
.687" - .689" / 17.5mm
1
8%
.708" / 18mm
2
17%
.728" / 18.5mm
3
25%
.748" - .750" / 19mm
3
25%
 
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Re: What is the bore measurement of your Eb or F "cimbasso"?

Postby cambrook » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:16 am

Mine is .728" or 18.5mm. At least that's the dimension listed on the MW website. I would say the horn is "ideal" regarding resistance.


Hi Jay,

Nice to see you hear again :-)

I've played a 4V MW Eb cimbasso very similar to yours; to me the resistance is very similar to the resistance on my Haag, despite the bore being 2.5mm bigger on the MW.

Maybe its the different valves used, but I think the advantage of the Hagmann valves on a cimbasso is that it allows a more appropriate bore (IMHO) without making the instrument stuffy.

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Re: What is the bore measurement of your Eb or F "cimbasso"?

Postby bloke » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:33 am

so basically...

The bore size is all over the universe, yet (apparently?) everyone (even though these are "special purpose" instruments) seems very pleased with their instruments.
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Re: What is the bore measurement of your Eb or F "cimbasso"?

Postby jonesmj » Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:49 pm

Hi-
Use a Travel Tuba with a small mouthpiece.......instant Cimbasso ....

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Re: What is the bore measurement of your Eb or F "cimbasso"?

Postby bloke » Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:46 pm

jonesmj wrote:Hi-
Use a Travel Tuba with a small mouthpiece.......instant Cimbasso ....

Mark


That's a really great (and affordable - assuming Asian) solution. The only minor issue is that is isn't as "directional" as the thing that people are calling "cimbasso"
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Re: What is the bore measurement of your Eb or F "cimbasso"?

Postby Mark » Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:52 pm

bloke wrote:
jonesmj wrote:Hi-
Use a Travel Tuba with a small mouthpiece.......instant Cimbasso ....

Mark


That's a really great (and affordable - assuming Asian) solution. The only minor issue is that is isn't as "directional" as the thing that people are calling "cimbasso"


The lack of a fifth valve is also a problem.
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Re: What is the bore measurement of your Eb or F "cimbasso"?

Postby jonesmj » Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:30 pm

Mark wrote:
bloke wrote:
jonesmj wrote:Hi-
Use a Travel Tuba with a small mouthpiece.......instant Cimbasso ....

Mark


That's a really great (and affordable - assuming Asian) solution. The only minor issue is that is isn't as "directional" as the thing that people are calling "cimbasso"


The lack of a fifth valve is also a problem.


Hi-
If not having a fifth valve is a problem with a particular piece's section using the F Travel Tuba (Asian), put the Eb tuning slide in and play the horn in Eb for the particular passage ( or visa versa).....

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Re: What is the bore measurement of your Eb or F "cimbasso"?

Postby Adam Peck » Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:42 pm

The G&P Fcimbasso I use in the TCO has a bore of c .778" I think. I don't consider it stuffy at all and if I was building a cimbasso I might use a .680"-.730" bore at first.
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Re: What is the bore measurement of your Eb or F "cimbasso"?

Postby jonesmj » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:20 pm

Hi-
Remember Jim Self's 'Jimbasso,' made from a Yamaha F tuba parts....mark

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Re: What is the bore measurement of your Eb or F "cimbasso"?

Postby bloke » Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:24 pm

yeah. That thing's appearance is practical and appealing to me.
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Re: What is the bore measurement of your Eb or F "cimbasso"?

Postby KiltieTuba » Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:20 am

I'm building a three valve BBb cimbasso with a .545" bore
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Re: What is the bore measurement of your Eb or F "cimbasso"?

Postby J.c. Sherman » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:20 pm

Mine aren't listed.

My slide instrument in F is .562 in the slide, and both the D and BBb valves are also .562. So that option isn't listed. It's a cranker and I've played Verdi, Puccini and Varese on it, as well as large trombone ensemble works. Never had a problem. I use a Kanstul 2A mouthpiece.

My BBb is a .640 bore in the valves, and larger (proprietary) afterwards; basically a dual bore, an idea worth exploring. This compact instrument can also rest on your shoulder. Another one of these is in the pipeline after an Eb job is finished.

I use either a Yamaha CB or a Bach contra mouthpiece on this.

Kilty, where did you find such a teeny valve section?

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Re: What is the bore measurement of your Eb or F "cimbasso"?

Postby KiltieTuba » Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:14 pm

J.c. Sherman wrote:...

Kilty, where did you find such a teeny valve section?

J.c.S.


Off one of those mini sousaphones, the bell and body are in use with the bass horn. Mine is in Bb at the moment, so I need to add about nine feet more to get the open bugle to line up with the valve set.
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