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Re: Update Update

Postby KiltieTuba » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:52 pm

PMeuph wrote:
KiltieTuba wrote:I drank beer today.


Shouldn't this be posted in the "what are you drinking now" thread? :roll: :roll: :roll:


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Re: Update Update

Postby ppalan » Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:10 am

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TubaTinker wrote:Today is 'Earth Day'. Now.... go practice!


There are still-to-this-day those who will deny that the first "Earth Day" (1970) was an under-the-table celebration of Lenin's 100th birthday.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin

Besides the obviously radical environmentalist agenda, the 1970 event included Vietnam protests.

bloke " ' time to go burn some plastic trash, leftover chemicals, and old computer monitors...and order some more ammo online"

April 22 is also the birthday of:
1357 - Johan I, King of Portugal (1383-1433)
1451 - Isabella I, of Castile, Queen of Spain (1479-1504), patron of Columbus
1610 - Alexander VIII, [Pietro Ottoboni], Italy, lawyer/Pope (1689-91)
1640 - Mariana Alcoforado, Portugal, nun
1658 - Giuseppe Torelli, Italy, composer (Concert Grossi op 8)
1682 - Willem I Kerricx the Young, Flemish architect/sculptor/painter
1690 - John Carteret, Earl Granville (C), English chief minister (1722-42)
1692 - James Stirling, Scottish mathematician (d. 1770)
1707 - Henry Fielding, England, novelist (Joseph Andrews, Tom Jones)
1711 - Eleazar Wheelock, American founder of Dartmouth College (d. 1779)
1724 - Immanuel Kant, Konigsberg Germ, philosopher (Critique of Pure Reason)
1744 - James Sullivan, 7th Governor of Massachusetts (d. 1808)
1766 - Madame de Staël, French author (d. 1817)
1773 - Jean V baron de Rebecque, Swiss/Dutch army leader
1775 - Georg Hermes, German philosopher/theologist (Hermenianen)
1781 - Christian Friedrich Hermann Uber, composer
1799 - Jean Poiseuille, physician/physiologist (blood pressure)
1812 - Solomon Caesar Malan, British orientalist (d. 1894)
1816 - Philip James Bailey, English poet (Festus)
1816 - Charles Denis Bourbaki, French general
1818 - Cadwallader Colden Washburn, Major General (Union volunteers)
1823 - Alfred Gibbs, Major General (Union Army), died in 1868
1827 - William Hopkins Morris, Major General (Union volunteers), died in 1900
1828 - Guilherme Antonio Cossoul, composer
1831 - Alexander McDowell McCook, Major General (Union volunteers)
1832 - Julius Sterling Morton, Nebraska, (Gov-Neb), started Arbor Day
1839 - August W Eichler, German botanist
1840 - Odilon Redon, French painter (d. 1916)
1844 - Lewis Thornton Powell, would-be assassin of Secretary of State William H. Seward (d. 1865)
1852 - Guillaume IV, Grand Duke of Luxembourg (d. 1912)
1853 - Alphonse Bertillon, France, anthropologist, devised crime ID system
1854 - Henri-Marie Lafontaine, Belgium, international lawyer (Nobel 1913)
1856 - [Marie] Louise Hens, Flemish actress (Two Orphans)
1858 - Ethel Mary Smyth, composer
1860 - Ada Rehan, American stage actress (d. 1916)
1863 - Cornelis A J van Dishoeck, Dutch publisher
1864 - Phil May, Wortley Yorkshire, cartoonist
1866 - Hans von Seeckt, German general (Future of the Reich)
1868 - Jose Vianna da Motta, composer
1868 - Archduchess Marie Valerie of Austria (d. 1924)
Marxist Revolutionary Vladimir LeninMarxist Revolutionary Vladimir Lenin (1870) 1870 - Nikolai Lenin, [Vladimir Ilich Ulyanov], Bolshevik/USSR revolutionist
1872 - Princess Margaret of Prussia, queen of Finland (d. 1954)
1873 - Ellen Anderson Glasgow, US, novelist (Ancient Law, Pulitzer-1942)
1876 - Georg Lurich, Estonian wrestler (d. 1920)
1878 - Kitty Gordon, Folkestone England, entertainer
1881 - Alexander Kerensky, Simbirsk, Russian PM (1917)
1884 - Armas Emmanuel Launis, composer
1884 - John van Capel, oldest man in Netherlands (Died Sept 3, 1992)
1889 - Ludwig Renn, writer
1889 - Richard Glücks, German SS officer and concentration camp administrator (d. 1945, by suicide)
1891 - Belle Bennett, Milcoon Rapids IA, actress (Stella Dallas, Iron Mask)
1891 - Harold Jeffreys, English astronomer (d. 1989)
1891 - Nicola Sacco, American anarchist (d. 1927)
1891 - Vittorio Jano, Italian engineer (d. 1965)
1892 - Nikolai Obouhov, composer
1892 - Vernon Johns, American civil rights activist (d. 1965)
1899 - Martyn Green, London, actor (Gilbert & Sullivan, Iceman Cometh)
1899 - Vladimir Nabokov, St Petersburg, novelist
1902 - Megan Lloyd George, English politician
1904 - J[ulius] Robert Oppenheimer, NY, head of Manhattan (A-bomb) Project
1905 - Robert Choquette, French Canadian novelist, poet and diplomat (d. 1991)
1906 - Eric William Fenby, composer/president (Delius Society)
1906 - Prince Gustaf Adolf, Duke of Västerbotten, second in line to the Swedish throne (d. 1946)
1907 - Ivan Efremov, Russian paleontologist and author (d. 1972)
1908 - Eddie Albert, [Heimberger], Rock Island Il, actor (Oliver-Green Acres)
1909 - Ralph Byrd, Dayton Ohio, actor (Dick Tracy TV Show)
1909 - Rita Levi-Montalcini, Italian neurologist, Nobel laureate
1909 - Indro Montanelli, Italian journalist and historian (d. 2001)
1910 - Eric Scowen, physician
1910 - R J Ritchie, tennis player
1910 - Norman Steenrod, American mathematician (d. 1971)
1912 - Gavalda Miguel Querol, composer
1912 - Kathleen Mary Ferrier, England, contralto (Orfeo Ed Evridice)
1914 - Charles Hubert Sisson, author/poet (Christopher Homm)
1914 - Hans Baumann, writer
1914 - Jan de Hartog, Dutch/English writer (Holland's Glory)
1914 - Michael Wittman, German soldier and tank ace (d. 1944)
1915 - Dick Dudley, Tenn, TV host (Village Barn)
1915 - Lord Airedale, British Lord (social democrat)
1916 - Earl of Oxford & Asquith, governor (Seychelles)
1916 - Lord Menuhin, OM
1916 - Yehudi Menuhin, NYC, violinist/conductor (Bartok's Sonata)
1917 - Leo Abse, biographer/MP
1917 - Sidney Nolan, Australia, painter/illustrator (Ned Kelly)
1918 - Mickey Vernon, baseball player
1919 - Donald Cram, US, biochemist (Nobel 1987)
1920 - Hal March, SF California, actor/TV host ($64,000 Question, Outrage)
1920 - Jos de Haes, Flemish philological/poet (Misery of the Word)
1922 - Charles Mingus, Arizona, jazz bassist (Pithecanthropus Erectus)
1922 - Lou Stein, Phila Pa, pianist (Tonight! America After Dark)
1922 - Richard C Diebenkorn Jr, US, painter (Ocean Park Paintings)
1923 - Betty Page, Kingsport Tn, playmate (Jan, 1955)/model (Dark Angel)
1923 - Hugh Lloyd, actor (Punch & Judy Man, Dunroamin' Rising)
1923 - Paula Fox, US children's books author (Poor George)
1923 - Peter Bowring, CEO (C T Bowring)
1923 - Avis Bunnage, English actress (d. 1990)
1923 - Aaron Spelling, American television producer (d. 2006)
1925 - Christopher Ball, Oxford, warden (Keble College)
1925 - George Cole, London England, actor (Minder, Vampire Lovers)
1926 - Bob Flannigan, Greencastle Ind, singer (4 Freshmen)
1926 - Charlotte Rae, Milwaukee Wisc, actress (Edna-Facts of Life)
1926 - James Stirling, Scottish D-day-parachutist/architect/knight
1927 - Pascal Bentoiu, composer
1927 - Laurel Aitken, Jamaican singer (d. 2005)
1928 - Aaron Spelling, TV executive producer (Charlie's Angels)
1928 - Margaret Pereira, forensic scientist
1929 - Geoffrey Marshall, Provost (Queen's College, Oxford)
1929 - Margaret Pereira, forensic scientist
1929 - Michael Atiyah, educator (Trinity College - Cambridge England)
1929 - Robert Wade-Gery, diplomat/exec director (Barclays de Zoete Wedd)
1929 - Victoria Opoku-Ware, Ghanaian queen
1931 - Henk Gortzak, Dutch MP (CPN/PSP)
1931 - Robert Dickson, Canada, ice hockey player (1948)
1931 - Ronald Hynd, British choreographer (English National Ballet)
1931 - Siem Vroom, Dutch actor (The Lift, Bridge Too Far, Mysteries)
1932 - Michael Colgrass, Chicago Illinois, composer (Best Wishes)
1933 - John A Llewellyn, Cardiff Wales, astronaut
1933 - Robin Hutton, merchant banker
1934 - 9th viscount Portman, British large landowner/multi-millionaire
1934 - David Ratford, diplomat
1934 - John K Barlow, English rubberplanter/financier/multi-millionaire
1934 - Nico Ladenis, British restauranteur (Nico at 90)/=
1934 - Viscount Portman, Britsh landowner/multimillionaire
1935 - Christopher Ball, linguist/warden (Keble College-Oxford)
1935 - Paul Chambers, American jazz bassist (d. 1969)
1936 - Glen Campbell, Delight Ark, actor/singer (Time I Get to Phoenix)
1936 - Pierre Hétu, French Canadian conductor and pianist (d. 1998)
1937 - Bobbi Fiedler, (Rep-R-CA, 1981- )
1937 - David Summerscale, head master (Westminster School England)
Actor Jack NicholsonActor Jack Nicholson (1937) 1937 - Jack Nicholson, NJ, actor (One Flew Over Cuckoo's Nest, Shining)
1937 - Jack Nitzsche, composer/songwriter (An Officer & a Gentleman)
1937 - Ken Palmer, cricketer (1-190 in only Test for England, now Test ump)
1937 - Kenneth Palmer, cricket umpire
1938 - Alan Bond, tycoon/yachtsman
1938 - Adam Raphael, English journalist and author
1939 - Jason Miller, Scranton PA, actor/writer (Exorcist, Light of Day)
1939 - John Chilcot, civil servant
1939 - John Foley, mjr-general
1939 - Mel Carter, American singer
1940 - Peter Goldstein, joint founder (Superdrug)
1943 - Mel Carter, singer (Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me)
1943 - Steve Dunne, cricketer (NZ Test umpire on international panel)
1943 - Louise Glück, American poet and 12th US Poet Laureate
1944 - Joshua Rifkin, composer
1944 - Steve Fossett, American adventurer (d. 2007)
1945 - Alan Dukes, Irish president (Fine Gael
1945 - Donald Graham, US businessman(?)
1945 - Gielijn Escher, Dutch postage stamp artist
1945 - Robert Key, MP/British undersecretary for National Heritage
1946 - Archy Kirkwood, MP (L-D)
1946 - Dectuplets, Bacacay Brazil, 8 males & 2 females
1946 - John Waters, director (Hairspray)
1946 - Louise Harel, Quebec politician
1946 - Nicole Garcia, French actress and director
1947 - Barry Guy, composer
1948 - Carole Drinkwater, actress (Father, All Creatures Great & Small)
1949 - Spencer Haywood, Silver City Ms, NBAer (Oly-gold-1968, Knicks)
1950 - Jancis Robinson, wine writer/broadcaster
1950 - Lewis Biggs, curator (Tate Gallery-North Liverpool)
1950 - Peter Frampton, Kent Engld, guitarist/vocalist (Frampton Comes Alive)
1951 - Ana María Shua, Argentine poet
1952 - Marilyn Chambers, American pornographic actress
1952 - François Berléand, French actor
1953 - Steve Bond, Haifa Israel, actor (General Hospital, To Die For)
1953 - Juhani Komulainen, Finnish composer
1954 - Joseph Bottoms, Santa Barbara Cal, actor (Surfacing, Blind Date)
1955 - Arthur Baker, rock producer (Afrika Banbaataa-Planet Rock)
1956 - Catherine Mary Stewart, Edmonton, actress (Passion & Paradise)
1957 - Alan Campbell, Homestead Fla, actor (E Z-3's a Crowd)
1957 - Ethel White, WBL guard (NY Stars)
1957 - Donald Tusk, Polish Prime Minister
1958 - Ashraf Ali, cricket wicket-keeper (Pakistani mid-80s)
1958 - Ken Olandt, actor (April Fool's Day, Imposter, Leprechaun)
1959 - Nicky Le Roux, South Africa, LPGA golfer (1994 Atlanta Champ-15th)
1959 - Ranjan Madugalle, cricketer (pioneer of Sri Lanka's Test teams)
1959 - Ryan Stiles, Seattle Wash, actor (Lewis-Drew Carey Show)
1960 - Lloyd Honeyghan, English welterweight boxing champ (1986)
1960 - Mart Laar, Estonian statesman
1960 - Randall L. Stephenson, American business executive
1961 - Byron Allen, LA California, comedian (Real People, Byron Allen Show)
1961 - Jeff Hostetler, NFL QB (NY Giants, Raiders, Redskins/1990 Superbowl)
1961 - Jimmy Key, Huntsville Alabama, pitcher (Blue Jays, NY Yanks, Orioles)
1962 - David Wettlaufer, Kitchener Ont, golfer (Ontario Beefeater-1986, 87)
1962 - Denise Baldwin, Atlanta GA, LPGA golfer (1991 Futures Salisbury)
1962 - Jeff Minter, English video game programmer
1964 - Bob McCann, NBA forward (Washington Bullets)
1964 - Chris Makepeace, Toronto, actor (Vamp, My Bodyguard, Meatballs, Oasis)
1965 - Lauri Hendler, actress
1965 - Peter Zezel, Canadian ice hockey player
1966 - Glenn Parker, NFL offensive tackle (Buffalo Bills, KC Chiefs)
1966 - Serge Poudrier, hockey defenseman (Team France 1998)
1966 - Mariana Levy, Mexican actress (d. 2005)
1967 - Bart Bowen, Albuquerque NM, cyclist (Olympics-96)
1967 - Harvey Williams, NFL running back (Oakland Raiders)
1967 - Mike Buck, NFL quarterback (Arizona Cardinals)
1967 - Sheryl Lee, Boulder Colo, actress (Twin Peaks, Love Lies & Murder)
1967 - Sherri Shepherd, American comedian and actress
1968 - Bimbo Coles, NBA guard (Golden State Warriors)
1968 - Carlos Costa, Spain, tennis star
1968 - Jo Angel, cricketer (big WA right-arm fast bowler, Australia 1993-)

and several hundred (thousands????) more
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Re: Update Update

Postby bloke » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:39 pm

1/ How many of those people's 100th birthdays were in 1970 (the first "Earth Day") ?
2/ How many on the list are even 1% as well-known as Vladimir Lenin ?
3/ An elected official is primarily credited with the creation of "Earth Day".
...................Who was this official, and what were his proclivities?
4/ What is the Institute for Policy Studies?
...................Was this elected official considered to be a "friend" or a "foe" of the ISP ?

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Re: Update Update

Postby Biggs » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:21 pm

bloke wrote:1/ How many of those people's 100th birthdays were in 1970 (the first "Earth Day") ?
2/ How many on the list are even 1% as well-known as Vladimir Lenin ?
3/ An elected official is primarily credited with the creation of "Earth Day".
...................Who was this official, and what were his proclivities?
4/ What is the Institute for Policy Studies?
...................Was this elected official considered to be a "friend" or a "foe" of the ISP ?

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A poorly-cloaked stunt is a poorly-cloaked stunt." :|



Even if this were true, who cares? Like you said in a now-locked thread, clean air and water are things that everyone wants. Let's celebrate and pursue them, and to hell with any birthday parties. If Earth Day were today (the 23rd) instead of yesterday (the 22nd), would you still be bitching about it? You've already said you espouse the environmental stewardship aspect of Earth Day (remember that post? where you said everyone wants clean air and water?), so why wouldn't you be willing to celebrate and pursue those things every day of the year, regardless of whichever long-dead SOBs happened to be born?
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Re: Update Update

Postby bloke » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:31 pm

The "environmentalist movement" is no more about "clean air and clean water" than "titty bars" are about "clean beer".

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Re: Update Update

Postby Biggs » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:39 pm

bloke wrote:The "environmentalist movement" is no more about "clean air and clean water" than "titty bars" are about "clean beer".

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So? According to you, Earth Day has nothing to do with the environment and everything to do with an inside joke about a long-dead Soviet. Are you saying you believe Earth Day is pointless and/or irrelevant since we should spend every day looking after clean air and water and not just one day a year? You know, clean air and water, those things everyone wants (this might be the first time I've known you to lump yourself in with "everyone", Mr. Bloke...)?
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Re: Update Update

Postby KiltieTuba » Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:04 pm

STOP!

It's clear your opinions differ, but don't get this epuc thread locked! :evil:
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Re: Update Update

Postby PMeuph » Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:42 pm

KiltieTuba wrote:STOP!

It's clear your opinions differ, but don't get this ep[i]c thread locked! :evil:


+1

FWIW, that was yesterday, today is Shakespeare's birthday, so let's celebrate that... Go listen to some Mendelssohn, and work on your ophicleide chops... :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: Update Update

Postby Uncle Buck » Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:25 pm

I am eating a bowl of Life cereal while reading this.
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Re: Update Update

Postby KiltieTuba » Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:54 am

Uncle Buck wrote:I am eating a bowl of Life cereal while reading this.


I ate a whole box of Life today for Lunch.
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Re: Update Update

Postby bloke » Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:11 am

KiltieTuba wrote:I ate a whole box of Life today for Lunch.


1/ Way sooner than you think, metabolism and gravity are going to catch up with you.

2/ Probably around 7:30 in the morning, you'll be creating more "earth" for the next "Earth Day". :|

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Re: Update Update

Postby Doc » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:53 am

bloke wrote:The "environmentalist movement" is no more about "clean air and clean water" than "titty bars" are about "clean beer".

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The environmentalist movement is not one of wise conservation, but more of a militant bunch of know-it-alls who seek to impose their political will on others. Regarding clean air, clean water, boobs, and clean beer, I have no issues with any of them, except that the boobs also be clean. I don't even mind a dirty girl, but she could at least bathe. :tuba:
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