Who am I?

tubajon · Post by **tubajon** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:31 pm

16.5 inch bell. 43 inch height. Key of BBb. 4 rotary valves with 15/16 inch main tuning slide. Some say I'm Czech; others say I'm East German. I'm kind of old. I look like a B&S. Correct answer is worth $1.00.

imperialbari · Post by **imperialbari** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:04 pm

I don’t get the joke?

Tubajug · Post by **Tubajug** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:17 pm

I am Spartacus!!

thezman · Post by **thezman** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:28 pm

No, I'm Spartacus!

sorry couldn't resist

TheHatTuba · Post by **TheHatTuba** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:48 pm

Why dont you have a 5th valve?

toobagrowl · Post by **toobagrowl** » Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:09 pm

tubajon wrote:16.5 inch bell. 43 inch height. Key of BBb. 4 rotary valves with 15/16 inch main tuning slide. Some say I'm Czech; others say I'm East German. I'm kind of old. I look like a B&S. Correct answer is worth $1.00.

Karl Ziess 'Master Modell'

http://www.horn-u-copia.net/picture.php ... -69126.jpg

ckalaher1 · Post by **ckalaher1** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:07 am

Martina Navratilova.

GC · Post by GC » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:18 am

Yo' mama. Nothing personal, you understand.

MartyNeilan · Post by **MartyNeilan** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:53 am

I'm Batman.

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:44 pm

I have a B & S/VMI 101 stencil 'on the bench' at the moment:

BBb
four rotors
43" tall
16 1/2" bell
.765" bore at 2nd rotor
.838" bore at main tuning slide

Uncle Buck · Post by **Uncle Buck** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:50 pm

TubaTinker wrote:I have a B & S/VMI 101 stencil 'on the bench' at the moment:

BBb
four rotors
43" tall
16 1/2" bell
.765" bore at 2nd rotor
.838" bore at main tuning slide

For repair, or is it gonna be for sale soon?

Dan Schultz · Post by **Dan Schultz** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:55 pm

Uncle Buck wrote:
TubaTinker wrote:I have a B & S/VMI 101 stencil 'on the bench' at the moment:

BBb
four rotors
43" tall
16 1/2" bell
.765" bore at 2nd rotor
.838" bore at main tuning slide
For repair, or is it gonna be for sale soon?

The Karl Wunderlick pictured was sold several years ago. The picture was just handy.

However.... The one here are the moment is a B & S/VMI 101 stenciled 'Walter Kroner'. It's here just for some simple dent removal... nothing serious... and is in VERY good condition. It has it's original bell (with a garland) that's also in very good condition. And yes... the 'Walter Kroner' will be for sale shortly. The price is not yet established since I don't own the horn... just doing the repair work. The owner is a poster here and may chime in on this thread.

Uncle Buck · Post by **Uncle Buck** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:59 pm

TubaTinker wrote:
Uncle Buck wrote:
TubaTinker wrote:I have a B & S/VMI 101 stencil 'on the bench' at the moment:

BBb
four rotors
43" tall
16 1/2" bell
.765" bore at 2nd rotor
.838" bore at main tuning slide
For repair, or is it gonna be for sale soon?
The Karl Wunderlick pictured was sold several years ago. The picture was just handy.

However.... The one here are the moment is a B & S/VMI 101 stenciled 'Walter Kroner'. It's here just for some simple dent removal... nothing serious... and is in VERY good condition. It has it's original bell (with a garland) that's also in very good condition. And yes... the 'Walter Kroner' will be for sale shortly. The price is not yet established since I don't own the horn... just doing the repair work. The owner is a poster here and may chime in on this thread.

Thanks for the info. I missed out on that Wunderlick a few years back when I couldn't get approval from my spouse/family CFO . . .

toobagrowl · Post by **toobagrowl** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:25 pm

TubaTinker wrote: The one here are the moment is a B & S/VMI 101 stenciled 'Walter Kroner'.

Geez....yet another B&S/VMI stencil

Lets see, we have: 'Musica', 'Sonora', 'Karl Zeiss', 'Gerhard Schneider', 'Carl Wunderlich', 'Giardinelli', 'Weltklang', 'Sanders', 'Walter Kroner' and counting...

The stencils 'Musica', 'Karl Zeiss' and 'Sanders' were also made by Cerveny, so it can be confusing. Other Cerveny/Amati stencils were 'Walter Sear' and 'Lignatone' and probably others...

Seems that B&S and Cerveny are tops for stenciling tubas under different names.

edit: hard to keep track of all these stencils

bradp · Post by **bradp** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:29 pm

Sweet horn!!

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:40 pm

Weltklang.

imperialbari · Post by **imperialbari** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:26 pm

Weltklang was the student/amateur line from GDR-era B&S,

Sonora and Musica are so common terms that they cannot be trademarked and hence may be used by anybody.

Lignatone was one of the housebrands of Amati also used for rotary instruments out of the then separately located Cerveny factory.

I am not sure about Karl Zeiss and Gerhard Schneider, but they may have been independent master craftsmen like Carl Wunderlich of Siebenbrunnen, a village now a part of Markneukirchen. All independent masters were forced into state conglomerates. Some continued as leaders of in-house workshops/brands like Hans Hoyer, the Wolframs, and Scherzer. Others had their names used as brands whenever exclusive importer contracts were broken.

Klaus

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:39 pm

imperialbari wrote:Weltklang was the student/amateur line from GDR-era B&S.

Indeed. That's what it seems to me to be.

toddjohn · Post by **toddjohn** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:42 am

K_n_a_s T_b_G_d A_t_v_t_D

H_H_H_H_H_H_A_A_A_A_A_A_A

Kevin Hendrick · Post by **Kevin Hendrick** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:58 am

toddjohn wrote:K_n_a_s T_b_G_d A_t_v_t_D

H_H_H_H_H_H_A_A_A_A_A_A_A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE

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