4 x 3 + 1 = grumpy wife - she doesn't like dorn

PhilGreen · Post by **PhilGreen** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:41 pm

Hi folks,

I'm in the market for a new 3+1 compensating EEb and am fortunate enough that Jonathan (Neptune/Wessex) and Mark (Mr Tuba) have lent me some to try.

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From left to right:

Hand made (unfinished) Mr Tuba model in raw brass, the rarely seen York 3080, the even rarer Miraphone 7050 and the Wessex 981 model. All blow really differently and despite the £5,500 price difference between the most and least expensive all have some great things going for them.

I'm expecting the prototype Neo any day soon - God knows where that's going to go and when I'll get the time to play them all!

Mrs Green isn't happy that her front room is now as full as the 3rd bedroom, where I keep my battered old 982 and my Melton 2040/5.

sousaphone68 · Post by **sousaphone68** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:04 pm

Not asking you to name it but has one of them pushed a nose out in front yet?

It also goes to show there's not much you can do to vary or improve a 3 + 1 layout you have four examples from different sources and makers and they all look very similar externally.

PhilGreen · Post by **PhilGreen** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:38 pm

KiltieTuba wrote:Took me a while to understand the title... couldn't figure out how 13 got into the mix...

Hopefully not too cryptic but enough to get people to take a look

Tom Coffey · Post by **Tom Coffey** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:55 pm

sousaphone68 wrote:It also goes to show there's not much you can do to vary or improve a 3 + 1 layout you have four examples from different sources and makers and they all look very similar externally.

+1. Just not a lot of design differences evident in that picture!

sousaphone68 · Post by **sousaphone68** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:14 pm

What is the gadget on the 4th valve on the Miraphone?
Is it a trigger for a slide or a keeper for the 4th valve when its in its case?

PhilGreen · Post by **PhilGreen** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:11 pm

It just keeps the 4th valve locked 'in' when not being used - or alternatively makes it into a BBb

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:09 pm

I would have titled the thread "4 = 3 + 1," or simply "3 X 1" (in the same manner that the common dimensional lumber is referred to as a "2 X 4").

PhilGreen · Post by **PhilGreen** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:32 am

Feels a bit wooden doesn't it?
If anyone is interested I'll note down my thoughts on each one when I've had a bit more time with each. If not Noel, I'll drop you a PM when ready.

LCH3 · Post by **LCH3** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:33 am

PhilGreen wrote:Feels a bit wooden doesn't it?
If anyone is interested I'll note down my thoughts on each one when I've had a bit more time with each. If not Noel, I'll drop you a PM when ready.

Please do report on your evaluation.

Thanks...

J.c. Sherman · Post by **J.c. Sherman** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:14 am

What's a Neo?

PhilGreen · Post by **PhilGreen** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:27 am

J.c. Sherman wrote:What's a Neo?

It's the new model from Yamaha to go with the Neo BBb released in the lat couple of years. Should be available in production next year I'm led to believe.

J.c. Sherman · Post by **J.c. Sherman** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:04 pm

Hmmm... wonder why they ran with "Neo" instead of "Xeno".

Still was hoping to try a lacquered 622...

J.c.S.

DaTubaKid · Post by **DaTubaKid** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:17 pm

J.c. Sherman wrote:Hmmm... wonder why they ran with "Neo" instead of "Xeno".

Still was hoping to try a lacquered 622...

J.c.S.

Because

is better than

J.c. Sherman · Post by **J.c. Sherman** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:27 pm

I'll take the latter, thank you

And why do you think I want the 622 over the 622S

MartyNeilan · Post by **MartyNeilan** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:24 am

J.c. Sherman wrote:I'll take the latter, thank you

And why do you think I want the 622 over the 622S

I'll take a vintage Wonder Woman model
(fully restored, of course)

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