OK, maybe I have a different understanding of the language, but when I look at this the term "completely reconditioned" doesn't really seem appropriate.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Conn-baritone-2 ... 35b239de45" target="_blank
To me that term implies that they have removed dents, especially the large ones in the bell and body, and perhaps even redid the lacquer.
Completely reconditioned?
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Re: Completely reconditioned?
What would you call it, then? I don't know that it would occur to me to expect cosmetic fixes, but it doesn't have a real precise meaning for me. Dictionary mentions "overhaul", as if the two words are synonymous, though to me, recondition emphasizes that stuff has been done to bring the thing back to like-new, where overhaul only promises that any grievous breakage has been fixed. E.g., reconditioned I'd expect new water key corks, but after an overhaul I'm not sure.
It's a good thing, whatever it is. I mean, I can see shiny for myself if there are photos, but it's quite helpful to have some confidence that it will play like it's supposed to.
It's a good thing, whatever it is. I mean, I can see shiny for myself if there are photos, but it's quite helpful to have some confidence that it will play like it's supposed to.
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Re: Completely reconditioned?
the elephant wrote:In my book that term is about as useless and vague as they come.
One that is used in shops fairly uniformly but misused by eBayers (and customers) right and left is "overhauled".
In most shops where I have been involved or at least a friendly competitor, and overhaul is the most pricy job, consisting of stripping and a thorough chem clean, a full teardown with a torch to remove *all* dents, realignment of slides (usually needed) and all needed work to the valve set, up to sending it off for a replating/refitting job at Anderson's. The horn is completely rebuilt and buffed like at the factory and re-lacquered or sent off for silver plating.
What the guy in the eBay ad did was called (in many shops) a PC, or Playing Condition job, where all felts, corks and springs are replaced (if needed) and easy dent work is done. Stuck slides are pulled and made to work freely and basic valve work is done.
Yea, "Playing Condition" is the term that came to my mind. I equate the term "completely reconditioned" with overhauled.