Any recordings of a Cerveny "Piggy"?

[UTSAtuba]

Hi all,

I'm looking into these tubas, and was wondering if there are any recordings for reference of a Cerveny "Piggy"? Solo or in a group...anything as an example. Thanks.

Joseph

[eupher61]

Big sound in a small package. not a York, not an Alex, but rich, smooth, and broad. Test it before you buy it, for pitch and response. A good one is a treasure, a bad one is miserable.

[Wyvern]

A couple months ago I heard concert by the Netherlands Radio Philharmonic and the tubist appeared to be playing a Cerveny Piggy, so maybe check out that orchestra's recent recordings.

BTW I was amazed as have never seen such a small tuba played in an orchestra for Shostakovich!

[IkeH]

The 1st Center City Brass Quintet album - "Center City Brass". Craig Knox told me he used his well worn piggy on that with the group recorded in a cathedral sanctuary just with an ambient mic. Out of frustration of the intonation quirks, he's gone through various other horns, but I think the pig sounds perfect on the album.

Ike

[TubaTodd]

The 1st Center City Brass Quintet album - "Center City Brass". Craig Knox told me he used his well worn piggy

I assume you mean this album.

http://www.amazon.com/Center-City-Brass ... 283&sr=8-1

Very nice playing!!!!! Makes me want to get a piggy.

[pierso20]

The 1st Center City Brass Quintet album - "Center City Brass". Craig Knox told me he used his well worn piggy

I assume you mean this album.

http://www.amazon.com/Center-City-Brass ... 283&sr=8-1

Very nice playing!!!!! Makes me want to get a piggy.

Maybe I'm opening a can of worms here (one that is OFTEN opened up in this forum) but I don't think that "nice playing" = "the horn". The nice playing comes from work and work and work, and studying, and practicing...etc. Now, maybe "nice sound" = "the horn", but since mouthpieces and individuality of player have such an effect on the sound of the player, I would be hesitant to even make that connection. I don't "want" any horn in particular that I haven't played. Even if I have played that particular model, it doesn't mean it's the horn for me because you need to try our individuals as well.

Ok..thread done being hijacked!

[TubaTodd]

At the risk of sounding like an @$$....

"nice playing" = "the horn"

Did I say that?

[Roger Lewis]

Here is a very good representation of the sound of a "piggy" in a brass quintet. This is a very fine piece by noted composer David Dzubay (also a fine trumept player).

I'm pretty sure that this is a Cerveny piggy in the quintet.

http://pronovamusic.com/notes/brassquintet.html" target="_blank

Roger

[Bob Kolada]

Is that Dave Taylor playing tuba? I thought he had a Besson Eb or some such thing....
The page confuses me.

[Roger Lewis]

The Manhattan Brass have it in their repertoire and have recorded it, but I believe the recording on David Dzubay's site is from the orginal taping after the world premier with the Indiana Chamber Brass.

Roger

[pierso20]

At the risk of sounding like an @$$....

"nice playing" = "the horn"

Did I say that?

Very nice playing!!!!! Makes me want to get a piggy.

I made my own conclusions for the sake of hijacking the thread. I'm sure that isn't exactly what you meant, but I LOVE taking things out of context (or using the correct context, whatever the case!)

[beckertuba]

Check out this link for samples of Center City Brass with Craig Knox. He may be playing a Piggy CC on this recording.

http://www.amazon.com/Center-City-Brass ... 871&sr=1-1" target="_blank

[Gongadin]

Listen to Donald Thornton playing with the Klezmorim or with Brassworks.
He told me that he used a Piggy - probably on the later recordings...maybe the live Klezmorim CD and Variety Stomp....great player.
Also - I have a Piggy for sale!

[circusboy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbE2QqGyaq8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g59-13sbcgo

[David Richoux]

Listen to Donald Thornton playing with the Klezmorim or with Brassworks.
He told me that he used a Piggy - probably on the later recordings...maybe the live Klezmorim CD and Variety Stomp....great player.
Also - I have a Piggy for sale!

Most of his playing with The Klezmorim Donald used a small Monke BBb 4 rotor - I have that horn now! (and it is for sale too. haven't posted it to the sale list yet.) It may be a Piggy Stencil, but I have no facts to back that up.
I found this post while searching on the word Klezmorim because of this link I saw on Facebook (posted by Johnathan Dorn.) Some amazing playing! Not a Piggy.

[jimgray]

I have heard Craig play his piggy many times - he was at BU when I was there and he Lived in the practice room. He played with ccbq when I lived in Cleveland and I was totally blown away. Craig kills on his pig, but all that means is that the horn isn't an impediment in highly capable hands. The player is the biggest variable.