If you won the lotto...

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At the risk of bringing this back to tubas... :lol:

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I'll keep my Miraphone 184 4U and my Yamaha 621, and buy back the Conn Monster Eb I made (I should NEVER have sold that!)

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I would buy a house in south Florida. You know... to get away from the hurricanes... :roll:
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sousaphone68 wrote:
Brian C wrote:1. Win Powerball.

2. Buy ranch in East Texas.

3. Buy many tubas.

4. Prepare for zombie apocalypse.
What is your preference edged weapons or projectile weapons?
A box of Blokepieces and a heavy duty slingshot.
Keep last Blokepiece tied up in a sock, for when you run out of projectiles.
(Unwrap and practice when it is all over.)
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Wow, really? Nobody here would buy the CSO York? That's the first thing I would do. Some will say it's "not for sale," but I guarantee there is a price point at which they would be unable to decline to sell. I would pay that price.

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Doesn't Gene prefer one over the other? Perhaps the CSO should auction off the other. :D
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Uh huh, right. I'm sure the CSO is really hurting for 10 or 20 grand... :roll: :P
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remember...you must play to win!!!
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CSO is hurting (or so the management claims); but there are some limitations on selling certain legacy/endowment/restricted assets when you're a non-profit; the donation was certainly made with the understanding they would not liquidate them. That kind of change cannot be made easily.

I wouldn't put it past them to attempt to borrow against them, though...

I'll take York #3 when if comes up... if it's shiny.
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Ah, well, if I got to play York #1 it would probably sound like #2, so I'd buy something cheaper . . .
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bort wrote:Uh huh, right. I'm sure the CSO is really hurting for 10 or 20 grand... :roll: :P

10 or 20k, no. If I hit the $100m+ jackpot, you can rest assured I would pay a million bucks for each of the Yorks without so much as batting an eye.
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DP wrote:
tubajon wrote:"Impossible to win the lotto since I don't buy tickets.

The odds wouldn't improve if I DID buy tickets."

Well, the odds would improve if you bought one ticket per year. Buying 0 tickets one has no chance.
Not really, but its clear you know nothing about odds-making, let alone statistics or even basic math :roll: but go ahead and piss your money away buying lotto tickets, after all "everyones doing it!"
You're overstating it, though not by much. If one buys no lottery tickets, the chance of winning is zero. If one buys even one lottery ticket, the chance of winning is non-zero. That was the point being made, and it's true.

It's probably worth a dollar once in a great while just for fun, and I've certainly pissed away dollars on things less likely to provide a dollar's worth of entertainment value. I suspect that's true for all of us, even those who are in the deepest financial struggle.

The idiots are those who buy lottery tickets thinking they are making an investment. The likely return on that investment is zero, but the best case scenario is pretty good. Unfortunately, the probability of the best case senario is about 0.00001%. Bloke's got his calculator set for too few digits in the display.

But we occasionally buy a ticket for sheer entertainment value. Thought we won once (the Redhead misread the ticket she'd bought in Texas six months earlier, which showed the winning number from the previous drawing; I was traveling and didn't see the ticket). We spent a whole night worrying about how it could ruin our lives, and finding a mechanism for keeping it secret so that we would not lose all our friends, few of whom had grown up with the necessary training for how to be close friends with wealthy people. (Let it be said that I was up for the challenge.) We were relieved when we discovered the mistake.

But it's fun to think about what we might buy that is beyond reach, versus what we make do with that is not. Frankly, I'm not sure what I'd buy. I can think of a couple of interesting instruments I'd like to own, but they are already owned and not necessarily available. I might seek out a rotary kaiser, or maybe one of the new F tubas on the market. But in general I feel very fortunate to have the instruments I do, which are already far better than I deserve on musical terms.

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J.c. Sherman wrote:CSO is hurting (or so the management claims); but there are some limitations on selling certain legacy/endowment/restricted assets when you're a non-profit; the donation was certainly made with the understanding they would not liquidate them. That kind of change cannot be made easily.
I thought the CSO actually bought the Yorks from Jacobs for actual money. And as I recall, the amount was significant; certainly enough to come without any restrictions. They certainly would not sell them for $10K or $20K.

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I was under a different impression; I thought Jake had left them to the CSO. I'll take your word for it. :tuba:

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Good observations, Rick. I do not buy lottery tickets, ever, so that won't happen. If I came into a lot of money, I would;

- pay off the business loans, and own the shop and business free and clear
- pay for the remainder of our 4 daughters' college educations (I have 2 in college now, will have 3 in college this Fall)
- hire a young and highly-motivated full-time assistant for the shop
- work normal, regular hours, and take vacations
- give to my Church
- play the instruments I have and be satisfied with them. That would be the Conn CC I built, a Kanstul F-tuba, a Conn 20J BBb, an Elkhart Conn 14K sousaphone, a Music Man Sterling electric bass and a Kay string bass.
- if I were ever sufficiently wealthy, I'd buy some new Kanstul tubas and donate them to the local high school band program.

As for the CSO Yorks, people have idealized them to the point that they may not actually be what you think. To my understanding, the CSO bought and paid for both of the instruments, and they were not identical, even from the factory. The older one had a taller bell and shorter leadpipe, and the newer one (current designation #1) has a shorter bell and a longer leadpipe. They both play quite well (but they are not perfect), and have slightly different tendencies. I think that they are exactly where they need to be now, safe, cared-for but in use, not in some private collection, but where they can be seen and heard and appreciated.
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Rick Denney wrote:five minutes
Stop bragging . . .
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This reminds me, I bought a ticket a couple of weeks ago and haven't checked it out. Be back in a moment, unless the wife and son come home, then it's off to Trick or Treat.
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Nope. My plan is still on hold until God approves it. Or it could be me He doesn't approve to implement it.

alfredr, maybe a little too imperfect.
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All 6 of Kanstul's new models, a (few) hirshbrunners, any original yorks findable, and an Alex F
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I thought I'd kick this one back up since the Powerball jackpot is now up to $250 million. I'm going to go buy my one ticket today or tomorrow and if I win I'm headed to California to get that monster Gnagey 6/4 BBb with a side trip to Kanstul for a new euphonium and who knows what else :mrgreen:
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