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Want to buy euphonium – need information

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Hello to all

I know, that this is mostly about Tuba, but I have a question concerning euphoniums. A friend of mine want's to learn euphonium and I help her to find a used one to start.
I saw some interesting instruments and I hope you can help me with some additional information or maybe someone of you has played the one or the other horn an can tell me how they play.
I found the following horns, they are all in the range of 950$:

- Besson Euphonium 700 (SN 766-737493)
- Besson Euphonium New Standart (SN 532432)
- Jupiter Euphonium JEP-470 (no more information)
- Arnolds & Sons Euphonium (no more information)
- B&B Euphonium 1000 (no more information)

And on Ebay you'll find some of these old Conn and King front bell, front action euphoniums / baritone horns. What do you think of these?

Thanks for all your answers.

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If I only had $950 to spend on a euphonium, I would look for a good used YEP-321 and have a large shank receiver added on to it.
I would also look for a used King 2266/2268.

Of the horns you mention, I have never heard of the last two and "New Standard" was not a specific model but rather a line. I would check to see if it is in High Pitch or Low Pitch before buying anything. A "New Standard" could be a 3 valve or a 4 valve compensator. (A 4 valve at the price you mention would be worth it)

Many of the models you mention definitively need tested before you buy them.
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Thanks for your answers so far. She needs the euphonium to play in a carnival band, where the musical standard isn't that high, so an instrument for about 1'000$ would be ok for her. And three valves will be enough as well. :)
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What do you think of the Yamaha YEP-201?
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butch wrote:What do you think of the Yamaha YEP-201?
The 201 is the same horn as their 321, minus the 4th valve. I have snagged good used ones for under 500 bux, in the off-season.

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Same quest as before, with the small sousaphones etc.?

These baritones sound like good instruments - the YEP 201, the old King/Olds/Conn - if they're in good condition. My first thought was, don't worry about 4 valves, but if it is to play more of a bass role than would normally be expected with a baritone horn, the 4th valve will be useful. It's really possible to play bass parts on baritone horn, after a fashion - I've seen it done pretty well in a small Bavarian band.
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Re: Want to buy euphonium – need information

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Not exactly the same question. I'm interessted in a small sousaphone, the euphonium would be for a friend of mine.
And yes, in the band she plays mostly bass lines.

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