Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba
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Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba
Just like the B&S 'Sonora' BBb. I like the fairly elaborate engraving on the bell.
Nothing spectacular, but should be a decent player:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crown-Tuba-Rota ... 1c2f638ee8
There is also another B&S-made 'Accent' tuba w/case, just like some of the older UMI-labeled 'Musica' BBb tubas. Should be a good player:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Accent-tuba-/25 ... 3a7db6e45e
Nothing spectacular, but should be a decent player:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crown-Tuba-Rota ... 1c2f638ee8
There is also another B&S-made 'Accent' tuba w/case, just like some of the older UMI-labeled 'Musica' BBb tubas. Should be a good player:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Accent-tuba-/25 ... 3a7db6e45e
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Re: Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba
Add these two to the ever-growing list of known B&S stencils. We're pretty sure B&S made at least some of the Sanders horns:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=53412" target="_blank
and here's the much-earlier B&S discussion I linked to in that thread:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=43102&hilit=cold+war+tubas" target="_blank
So far we have, to my knowledge (list updated 6-28-18):
Accent
Bach
Carl Wunderlich
Conn International
Courtois
Crown
Forza
Gerhard Schneider
Giardinelli
Hans Mueller
Hanstone
Hilgers
Karl Zeiss (or Ziess)
König
Lamar
L'Rae
Mercedes
Musica
Otto Weimar
Sanders
Schmidt (F.)
Sonora
Vespro
VMI
Walter Kroner
Weltklang
Any others?
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=53412" target="_blank
and here's the much-earlier B&S discussion I linked to in that thread:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=43102&hilit=cold+war+tubas" target="_blank
So far we have, to my knowledge (list updated 6-28-18):
Accent
Bach
Carl Wunderlich
Conn International
Courtois
Crown
Forza
Gerhard Schneider
Giardinelli
Hans Mueller
Hanstone
Hilgers
Karl Zeiss (or Ziess)
König
Lamar
L'Rae
Mercedes
Musica
Otto Weimar
Sanders
Schmidt (F.)
Sonora
Vespro
VMI
Walter Kroner
Weltklang
Any others?
Last edited by Heavy_Metal on Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:40 pm, edited 18 times in total.
Principal tuba, Bel Air Community Band
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
1970s Marzan Slant-rotor BBb
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
1970s Marzan Slant-rotor BBb
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
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Re: Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba
Thanks.
Add 'Giardinelli' and 'Bach' to the list. They are 4/4 rotary BBb tubas. Probably others as well. It can be confusing because some of those brands are made by two or more manufacturers.Heavy_Metal wrote: So far we have, to my knowledge:
Accent
Carl Wunderlich
Crown
Gerhard Schneider
Karl Zeiss
König
Musica
Otto Weimar
Sanders
Sonora
VMI
Walter Kroner
Any others?
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Re: Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba
There is a "Mercedes' stencil. Not the Bach one, obviously. I've got a picture of one around here someplace...
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Re: Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba
Updated, thanks.
Principal tuba, Bel Air Community Band
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
1970s Marzan Slant-rotor BBb
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
1970s Marzan Slant-rotor BBb
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
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Re: Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba
Weltklang.
Had 2 when I lived in Dresden. Would still have them if I had cases.
Had 2 when I lived in Dresden. Would still have them if I had cases.
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Re: Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba
Thanks- don't know how I missed that, since it appears in one of the threads I referenced....
BTW, the Crown has been relisted with a price drop. Someone please buy this tuba!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crown-Tuba-Rota ... 1c30155140" target="_blank
BTW, the Crown has been relisted with a price drop. Someone please buy this tuba!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crown-Tuba-Rota ... 1c30155140" target="_blank
Principal tuba, Bel Air Community Band
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
1970s Marzan Slant-rotor BBb
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
1970s Marzan Slant-rotor BBb
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
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Re: Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba
Conn International by B&S/Weltklang?
Weren't they by the Austran maker, that later on named the same models Musica?
Klaus
Weren't they by the Austran maker, that later on named the same models Musica?
Klaus
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Re: Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba
My friend actually had a b&s stencil of a pt606 labeled on the bell courtois.
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That which is dead can eternal lie and with many strange aeons even tubas will fly
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That which is dead can eternal lie and with many strange aeons even tubas will fly
-A Misquote from HP Lovecraft.
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Re: Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba
Got it, thanks.
Principal tuba, Bel Air Community Band
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
1970s Marzan Slant-rotor BBb
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
1970s Marzan Slant-rotor BBb
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
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Re: Yet another B&S stencil - 'Crown' BBb tuba
Some of them might have been. As has been stated elsewhere, it's almost impossible to trademark something like "Musica", so if the same importer wasn't buying from different sources, another importer might have grabbed the name.imperialbari wrote:Conn International by B&S/Weltklang?
Weren't they by the Austran maker, that later on named the same models Musica?
Klaus
But we actually did see pics of a "Conn International" that came from B&S. The Craigslist post is gone, but here is our thread:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=59862&p=500901" target="_blank
Principal tuba, Bel Air Community Band
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
1970s Marzan Slant-rotor BBb
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
1970s Marzan Slant-rotor BBb
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop