Over the years I had a B&H Imperial were the bottom bow separated through a combination of poor solder and a dent much like Dales band mates had a dent close to the failed joint.
I also have a Wessex 700 were a stay let go either through me not being careful when removing from case or bad solder it was 3 months old and Neptune paid for it to be repaired with out question or quibble.
Poorly Constructed Tubas
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Cant carry a tune but I can carry a tuba.


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I had a solder joint break on a Walter Nirschl horn... twice. Still the best horn I'll ever own, I'm certain. Made in Germany... bought from the U.S.
Guess how it broke... Pulling the slide. I mean... beyond dropping the thing, how else would you manage to bust a solder joint than during operation?
Anyhow, moving on to other topics.
Guess how it broke... Pulling the slide. I mean... beyond dropping the thing, how else would you manage to bust a solder joint than during operation?
Anyhow, moving on to other topics.
Al Carter
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Too bad it was not made in Canada. Then we would appoint a royal commision to study the matter for five years and end up with a finding which was inconclusive.LJV wrote:Damned Yankees...Toobist wrote:I had a solder joint break on a Walter Nirschl horn... twice. Still the best horn I'll ever own, I'm certain. Made in Germany... bought from the U.S.
1930 King "Symphony" Recording Bass BBb
1916 Holton "Mammoth" Upright Bass BBb
1994 King 2341 Upright Bass BBb
Wedge H2 Solo mouthpieces
Stofer-Geib mouthpieces
1916 Holton "Mammoth" Upright Bass BBb
1994 King 2341 Upright Bass BBb
Wedge H2 Solo mouthpieces
Stofer-Geib mouthpieces
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Most people do not realize this is all-too-common in brass instruments, regardless of where your instrument was made or how much it cost. As far as internal problems that the player experiences, but will never see unless they see their instrument while it is disassembled in the shop, I've seen and repaired these issues in every type of instrument. I would say the odds are better than 100 to 1 that your instrument does not have 100% perfectly-soldered joints. I cannot tell you how many faulty tuning slide assemblies I've dealt with, but every one of them that was repaired made for a vastly better instrument.
Lee A. Stofer, Jr.
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It takes less time to re-solder the joint than to complain about it. I used to have a @1971 Besson BBb 3-valve comp. (I sold it to a friend, so I can borrow it back any time I desire, but I digress....) As I only came to own the tuba when it was close to 40 years old, one by one all of the solder joints were starting to go and over the course of the few years I owned it I took it in every few months to my local tech to resolder the next joint to go, whether a brace, a valve slide bow, or what have you.
Way to much is made of this issue. Just fix it and move on.
Way to much is made of this issue. Just fix it and move on.
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Lee Stofer wrote:Most people do not realize this is all-too-common in brass instruments, regardless of where your instrument was made or how much it cost. As far as internal problems that the player experiences, but will never see unless they see their instrument while it is disassembled in the shop, I've seen and repaired these issues in every type of instrument. I would say the odds are better than 100 to 1 that your instrument does not have 100% perfectly-soldered joints. I cannot tell you how many faulty tuning slide assemblies I've dealt with, but every one of them that was repaired made for a vastly better instrument.
Keen observation, my Willson 3100 had a terrible solder joint out of the 5th to the main. It was floating and only held by a brace in place. They all have their faults and become more appearent with age as stress from use becomes apparent.
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Willson Eb 3400 FA5
..and a miriad of other JUNK not worth mentioning.
Puget Brass
Willson BBb 3100 FA5
Willson Eb 3400 FA5
..and a miriad of other JUNK not worth mentioning.
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Or, just in general, WWJDWTS.LJV wrote:Which makes me ask, WWJDWTST?*Grooving for Heaven wrote:Still have those Christian verses on your facebook page i see. Dont talk the talk if you arent going to walk the walk
*What would Jesus do with that soldering torch...?
Jupiter JTU1110
"Real" Conn 36K
"Real" Conn 36K