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Bell-Front Miraphone

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I asked what key it was in, no response yet:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261256333181?ss ... 1423.l2649" target="_blank

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My uninformed vote is BBb.
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Re: Bell-Front Miraphone

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Eb
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Re: Bell-Front Miraphone

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TheHatTuba wrote:Eb
+100
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Re: Bell-Front Miraphone

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Got a response from the seller, thinks it's Eb but not sure.
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Old (early 1900s?) Alexander BBb proto-163
1976 Sonora (B&S 101) 4-rotor BBb
1964 Conn 20J/21J BBb (one body, both bells)
~1904 York 3P BBb Helicon
Old Alex Comp.F, in shop
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Re: Bell-Front Miraphone

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That's probably because I asked him if it was an Eb, he has no clue.
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Re: Bell-Front Miraphone

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Very certain it's an Eb.
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Well, looks like my first impression (which was based on the perceived length of the 1st and 2nd valve loops - they still look longer to me than EEb) was incorrect.

Dan or anyone else, I'd appreciate being "set straight," particularly looking at that second photo and the length of the 2nd valve loop that goes underneath the clockwork mechanism.
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Uncle Buck wrote:Well, looks like my first impression (which was based on the perceived length of the 1st and 2nd valve loops - they still look longer to me than EEb) was incorrect.

Dan or anyone else, I'd appreciate being "set straight," particularly looking at that second photo and the length of the 2nd valve loop that goes underneath the clockwork mechanism.
I've owned several Miraphone 183's. This is actually a much smaller tuba than the 186 so with nothing in the image to compare this horn too... it's difficult to get a sense of scale. The bore of the 183 is .681" while the 186 is .770". The bells are also quite different.... about 13 1/2" as opposed to about 16 1/2".

The 'give-away' is the leadpipe being straight (like on a 186CC) before it enters the rotors. Here's a picture of one of the 183's I had which had a recording bell that I converted to an upright bell. Hence, the main slide extension.
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Thanks - very helpful!
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Re: Bell-Front Miraphone

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KiltieTuba wrote:Fbb
???

The Urban Dictionary says fbb means 'Face, Boobs, and Bum'. ... with an alternate definition of 'FaceBook Bxtxh'.
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the elephant wrote:
TubaTinker wrote:'Face, Boobs, and Bum'
KiltieTuba wrote:C'mon - F double flat? I thought this was a music forum?
C'mon - It is a tuba forum. You fail to see the connection? :P
I made that connection right away. But... couldn't resist the chance to give you some crap! :)

BTW... regarding the girls in dirndls.... in about 30 minutes, I'm off to take my place at Germania Mannerchors 'Volksfest'. Plenty of brats, beer, dirndls, and German music. Runs Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. The Rhein Valley Brass will be playing in the ballroom from six to midnight.

Think I'll take one of the recently overhauled Miraphone 186 recording-bell tubas and of course... the Alphorn!
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Re: Bell-Front Miraphone

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I just bought the thing, so there is that.
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Back when I was in acquisition mode I definitely would have gone for it. A bell front EEb would be a fun thing to have for certain groups. Let us know how it works out.
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Re: Bell-Front Miraphone

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thattubaguy wrote:I just bought the thing, so there is that.
Congrats on the purchase.
I am interested to know if the lead pipe is OK I was bidding also but bad wifi caused me to miss the end of the auction.
Cant carry a tune but I can carry a tuba.
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sousaphone68 wrote:
thattubaguy wrote:I just bought the thing, so there is that.
Congrats on the purchase.
I am interested to know if the lead pipe is OK I was bidding also but bad wifi caused me to miss the end of the auction.
You need to enlist the help of a 'sniper' program.
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Re: Bell-Front Miraphone

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TubaTinker wrote:
sousaphone68 wrote:
thattubaguy wrote:I just bought the thing, so there is that.
Congrats on the purchase.
I am interested to know if the lead pipe is OK I was bidding also but bad wifi caused me to miss the end of the auction.
You need to enlist the help of a 'sniper' program.
Didn't.
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