I cant find my tape measure, but I'd say it just barely breaks the 30 inch markbort wrote:Good one! How tall (or short) is that tuba anyway?
The car analogy
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The Rambler dealer in West Seattle where I grew up had what was reputed to be a very early model Rambler on display in the showroom. It had the curved dash and tiller of the Olds. The dealership is long closed and I was only about 10 years old when I saw it so I'm not sure my recollections are reliable. I can't remember if it did or didn't have a year listed on the plaque next to it in the showroom.tofu wrote:His Rambler was introduced in the spring of 1902 and became the world's second mass-produced car, behind Oldsmobile's curved-dash model. His 1900 and 1901 prototypes featured two radical innovations: steering wheels and front-mounted engine.
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Martin= Packard. Even their dates of manufacture are similar!
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Hearing other Rambler stories brought to mind that back in the day our family had a 1962 Rambler American wagon. For some reason I remember that when my dad would accelerate, the vacuum windshield wipers would stall out in the middle of the windshield 
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Oh. yeah... My buddy's Mother had a little red Rambler sedan and, when the rain started coming down hard like it does up here in Washington, Tyler was dispatched to "rev up" the wipers because there was a vacuum leak in the system. Once they got up to speed, they stayed pretty much at that speed but couldn't get over that hump.... Not sure if it had a crack in the head or block or just a leaky gasket but Mrs. Beck kept a gallon jug of water in the car and, when the temperature got a little too high, Tyler was dispatched to top off the radiator.Tampaworth wrote:Hearing other Rambler stories brought to mind that back in the day our family had a 1962 Rambler American wagon. For some reason I remember that when my dad would accelerate, the vacuum windshield wipers would stall out in the middle of the windshield
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I like to think of the CB50 as the V6 Camry. Enough power to get you into a lot of trouble, but at normal levels, just enough that you don't feel like you can't keep up.
Cerveny 6/701 Kaiser-a semi truck. You could take 4 bands with you, but going around a corner at more than 25 mph means you're likely to flip.
The Besson BBb 4v comp is like a Rolls. Enormous but with a huge engine.
I think my Wessex mighty midget is like a Lotus Elise. Tiny and nimble, but you can't pull a band with it.
Miraphone 186 is a wrx Imprezza. You can put in horrible commands and it still keeps you shiny side up
...furthering the car analogies, the bass trombone could be the weapons mounted onto the vehicle...I don't believe in having weapons mounted on vehicles, do you??
Cerveny 6/701 Kaiser-a semi truck. You could take 4 bands with you, but going around a corner at more than 25 mph means you're likely to flip.
The Besson BBb 4v comp is like a Rolls. Enormous but with a huge engine.
I think my Wessex mighty midget is like a Lotus Elise. Tiny and nimble, but you can't pull a band with it.
Miraphone 186 is a wrx Imprezza. You can put in horrible commands and it still keeps you shiny side up
...furthering the car analogies, the bass trombone could be the weapons mounted onto the vehicle...I don't believe in having weapons mounted on vehicles, do you??
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I owned several Ramblers and lots of AMCs. They did have notorious vacuum wipers. The work around was a vacuum holding tank. What took some time was wrapping your head around the fact that the wipers would only work well when the vacuum tank was FULL of VACUUM!Tampaworth wrote:Hearing other Rambler stories brought to mind that back in the day our family had a 1962 Rambler American wagon. For some reason I remember that when my dad would accelerate, the vacuum windshield wipers would stall out in the middle of the windshield
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Hey! Some cars, albeit only the very nice ones, come with OEM trombones.Tuba Guy wrote:...furthering the car analogies, the bass trombone could be the weapons mounted onto the vehicle...I don't believe in having weapons mounted on vehicles, do you??
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Mercedes-Benz have vacuum controlled parts all over them. The door locks don't 'click'. They just settle down quietly. My diesel doesn't develop vacuum per se so it has a separate vacuum pump to operate all of these vacuum parts.Carroll wrote:I owned several Ramblers and lots of AMCs. They did have notorious vacuum wipers. The work around was a vacuum holding tank. What took some time was wrapping your head around the fact that the wipers would only work well when the vacuum tank was FULL of VACUUM!Tampaworth wrote:Hearing other Rambler stories brought to mind that back in the day our family had a 1962 Rambler American wagon. For some reason I remember that when my dad would accelerate, the vacuum windshield wipers would stall out in the middle of the windshield
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OK, this being the centennial of the beginning of WWI, and having owned a 3-valve comp, I will equate the Boosey/Besson Edgeware Road production of BBb compensating tubas, 17-inch bell, heavy brass, both 3- and 4-valve to this, a Mark V tank (Mark V chosen, because, just like the Boosey/Besson comp 17-inch bell tubas, it was the definitive of development for what it was):
Jupiter JTU1110
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My analogy is my Weltklang tuba and my Wartburg 353 station car, a wunderful car, that I have had more than 27 years.
Example:
http://betterparts.org/wartburg/wartburg-353.html" target="_blank" target="_blank
Example:
http://betterparts.org/wartburg/wartburg-353.html" target="_blank" target="_blank
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Interesting automobile. I've followed cars for a long time but don't know much about Eastern Bloc cars other than things like the Trabant. Betterparts looks like a good website for finding parts for cars which are out of production with few survivors. What is the parts availability with a car like a Wartburg (any model)?Ulli wrote:My analogy is my Weltklang tuba and my Wartburg 353 station car, a wunderful car, that I have had more than 27 years.
Example:
http://betterparts.org/wartburg/wartburg-353.html" target="_blank"
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Oh, I have a whole garage full of Wartburg 353 parts- but no more WartburgThe Big Ben wrote:What is the parts availability with a car like a Wartburg (any model)?
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I find the Czech auto and truck manufacturer Tatra very interesting, Perhaps they are the Cerveny of the auto world...
The Tatra T603 sedans were rear wheel drive with aluminum air-cooled V-8s in the trunk. Styling reminds me of the '50 Nash Ambassador Upside-Down bathtub car...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatra_(company" target="_blank)
The Tatra T603 sedans were rear wheel drive with aluminum air-cooled V-8s in the trunk. Styling reminds me of the '50 Nash Ambassador Upside-Down bathtub car...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatra_(company" target="_blank)
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The first car that I ever bought was a Skoda Felicia and like my JB700 Eb I took a lot ribbing and warnings that I would not be happy but it took 320,000 miles in its stride and was still running well when I sold it.
3 years in with tuba and all is going well also.
There are lots of Skoda jokes like What is included in every owners manual?
A bus schedule.

3 years in with tuba and all is going well also.
There are lots of Skoda jokes like What is included in every owners manual?
A bus schedule.

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