Fingering trainers (Bb/C/Eb)
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dopey
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Fingering trainers (Bb/C/Eb)
I wanted to practice Eb tuba fingerings while waiting for my new horn. Reading over books I had and 'air tuba' just doesn't feel natural. So I wrote a javascript web app that lets you use left(1), down(2), right(3), and up(0-open) for the different valves. It's definitely still pretty rough but welcome any feedback(or any missed fingerings). It seems to work for me atleast.
http://www.dopey.io/tuba/" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
To use:
press and release left(1), down(2), right(3), or up(open) arrow keys for the valve combination for the note. (On release is the trigger). It should say either 'correct' or 'wrong, the correct fingering is blah'. Hit space to progress to the next note, you can't hit space until you attempt the current note.
Eb == up arrow
G == left and down arrow or right arrow.
Db == left arrow
..etc
I'll add more notes tomorrow, but right now there is 25 in rotation ranging from Bb below staff to Bb on top.
First time messing with javascript, but thought others could get use from this as well. I certainly will! -- This won't work on mobile/tablet you need a keyboard:)
Edit --
I've added Bb and C trainers as well. I will work on adding F. Original link takes you to page where you can pick which trainer you'd like!
http://www.dopey.io/tuba/" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank
To use:
press and release left(1), down(2), right(3), or up(open) arrow keys for the valve combination for the note. (On release is the trigger). It should say either 'correct' or 'wrong, the correct fingering is blah'. Hit space to progress to the next note, you can't hit space until you attempt the current note.
Eb == up arrow
G == left and down arrow or right arrow.
Db == left arrow
..etc
I'll add more notes tomorrow, but right now there is 25 in rotation ranging from Bb below staff to Bb on top.
First time messing with javascript, but thought others could get use from this as well. I certainly will! -- This won't work on mobile/tablet you need a keyboard:)
Edit --
I've added Bb and C trainers as well. I will work on adding F. Original link takes you to page where you can pick which trainer you'd like!
Last edited by dopey on Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:52 am, edited 1 time in total.
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ufonium2
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Re: Eb Fingering trainer
This is cool! What key is 4th valve, though? I have avoided it by using three-valve fingerings, but I notice if I get one wrong it defaults to four-valve fingerings ("the correct answer was 2-4" or whatever) so I'm wondering which key is 4th.
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dopey
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Re: Eb Fingering trainer
I haven't decided which to use for 4th valve yet, any suggestion?
Maybe number pad 0?
Going to try and add tracking during the session so you can see % right/wrong.. I think that'll be trivial.
It's not pretty but it's definitely helping me get used to Eb fingerings.
Maybe number pad 0?
Going to try and add tracking during the session so you can see % right/wrong.. I think that'll be trivial.
It's not pretty but it's definitely helping me get used to Eb fingerings.
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ufonium2
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Re: Eb Fingering trainer
I don't know anything about programming; would it be possible two have two different buttons that function as 4th? Maybe even both 0 buttons, so 3+1 folks could use the upper one with left hand and in-line folks could use the number pad one.
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dopey
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Re: Eb Fingering trainer
0 on the top row of numbers and '0' on the numpad(make sure numlock is on) works as 4th now.
Complete keys:
Up Arrow - 0(open)
Left Arrow - 1
Down Arrow - 2
Right ARrow -3
Numpad 0 - 4
0 on top row - 4
Space to go to next note, only works after attempting existing.
Complete keys:
Up Arrow - 0(open)
Left Arrow - 1
Down Arrow - 2
Right ARrow -3
Numpad 0 - 4
0 on top row - 4
Space to go to next note, only works after attempting existing.
- Ben
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Re: Eb Fingering trainer
Thank you for sharing this great little app. I've spend a small chunk of time today brushing up on the "flashcards". I've got an Eb I am dying to play, but its getting a little valve work done. I love it!
Ben Vokits
NYC/Philly area Freelancer
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Alex 164C, 163C, 155F; HB1P
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Re: Eb Fingering trainer
Very cool! Thanks for sharing. Are there ever any sharps that come up? Those are what mess with my head the most on Eb tubas...
Jordan
King 2341 with a Holton "Monster" Eb bell
Eb Frankentuba
Martin Medium Eb Helicon
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King 2341 with a Holton "Monster" Eb bell
Eb Frankentuba
Martin Medium Eb Helicon
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving's probably not for you.
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dopey
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Re: Eb Fingering trainer
Sharps are there now. May not be 100%-- I haven't gone through to make sure I have every note. Total of 35 notes in rotation. I am generating the images using some scripts I wrote leveraging lilypad which i'm still learning the neat, but quirky, syntax of it's language.. (You can write music via command line/files i.e. not gui application.. Pretty cool!)
Some things I want to add:
Tracker of failure vs success until you reload the page.
Ability to do scales -- It does one note at a time for X scale so you can practice scales.
Glad others are finding it useful. It would be trivial to do one for F, C, Bb as well if interest. Really just need create the 'answers' and a new link.
Got my tracking for my horn this evening, it is currently in Denmark. So I won't see it till Monday or Tuesday .. So looks like I have a weekend of practicing/coding to keep me sane until it arrives:)
Some things I want to add:
Tracker of failure vs success until you reload the page.
Ability to do scales -- It does one note at a time for X scale so you can practice scales.
Glad others are finding it useful. It would be trivial to do one for F, C, Bb as well if interest. Really just need create the 'answers' and a new link.
Got my tracking for my horn this evening, it is currently in Denmark. So I won't see it till Monday or Tuesday .. So looks like I have a weekend of practicing/coding to keep me sane until it arrives:)
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dopey
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Re: Eb Fingering trainer
Added stats during your 'session' (until you refresh/leave the page).
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Levaix
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Re: Eb Fingering trainer
Is it supposed to refresh itself after a while? I need to hit the refresh button on the top of the page. Using Chrome.
Doh! Stupid me! Need to read!
Doh! Stupid me! Need to read!
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dopey
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Re: Eb Fingering trainer
Have to hit space for a new note.Levaix wrote:Is it supposed to refresh itself after a while? I need to hit the refresh button on the top of the page. Using Chrome.
Doh! Stupid me! Need to read!
I wanted it to auto change after releasing keys but that was trickier, so I went this easy route. I am doing stuff on the key release -- So when you do multiple keys, technically that triggers mutliple events. It made the app report 'fails' on the subsequent key releases from a single note... Hopefully I think of a clever way to handle that, as It be allot better if the note just changed automatically!.. but I wanted to get something going to start practicing.
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Levaix
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Re: Eb Fingering trainer
Definitely! Well done on this. I actually know someone who needs to learn some Eb fingerings, so this is great.Jacob Morgan wrote:Have to hit space for a new note.Levaix wrote:Is it supposed to refresh itself after a while? I need to hit the refresh button on the top of the page. Using Chrome.
Doh! Stupid me! Need to read!
I wanted it to auto change after releasing keys but that was trickier, so I went this easy route. I am doing stuff on the key release -- So when you do multiple keys, technically that triggers mutliple events. It made the app report 'fails' on the subsequent key releases from a single note... Hopefully I think of a clever way to handle that, as It be allot better if the note just changed automatically!.. but I wanted to get something going to start practicing.
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Re: Eb Fingering trainer
Any plans for a Bb or CC version?
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dopey
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Re: Eb Fingering trainer
Yea, either late tonight or tomorrow!sousaphone68 wrote:Any plans for a Bb or CC version?
I will change the current URL to be a landing page with links to the different trainers. I just need to create the 'answers' for the different keys as the code/images will work the same. I'll post when I get them up here:)
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dopey
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Re: Fingering trainers (Bb/C/Eb)
I've added Bb, and CC today.
The original page, http://dopey.io/tuba" target="_blank gives you thjree options now.
Please let me know any incorrect fingerings, especially on CC. My brain hurts after doing Bb, Eb, and CC fingerings.
I'll work on adding F, but I need to decide how many valves to support(is 5 'average'), and which keys to use(any suggestions?).
The original page, http://dopey.io/tuba" target="_blank gives you thjree options now.
Please let me know any incorrect fingerings, especially on CC. My brain hurts after doing Bb, Eb, and CC fingerings.
I'll work on adding F, but I need to decide how many valves to support(is 5 'average'), and which keys to use(any suggestions?).
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michael_glenn
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Re: Fingering trainers (Bb/C/Eb)
I would use J as 1 K as 2 L as 3 ; as 4 space as 5, and A as open. That way the right hand feels more natural.
Michael Ebie
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PhD Music Theory (ABD) — University of Cincinnati CCM
MM Music Theory — Michigan State University
MM Tuba Performance — Michigan State University
BM Brass Performance — University of Akron