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IIRC...

30 = standard w/4 valves
31 = standard w/4 valves and detachable bell
32 = standard w/5 valves
33 = standard w/5 valves and detachable bell

35 = William Bell model w/4 valves
37 = William Bell model w/5 valves

I don't think there were different model numbers for the 35/37 depending on one-piece or detachable bell.
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Again, I'm no expert, but I've only seen vertical and narrow.
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Well for reference this is my current "bell" model which is no doubt a bell model even has it engraved on the Bell along with N-145 whatever that is.
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There are many folks who think Bill Bell should have spent a few more years with King to make the King rotary CC tubas better before moving on to Meinl-Weston. Intonation of the King rotary horns was less than spectacular and some of the early Meinl models were about as bad.

Does anyone know of ANY tubas that were great in their first runs? I'm just curious. Maybe start another thread.
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tuben wrote:My 1969 model 37(?)

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Not sure why but I can't see whatever pic you posted
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TubaTinker wrote:There are many folks who think Bill Bell should have spent a few more years with King to make the King rotary CC tubas better before moving on to Meinl-Weston. Intonation of the King rotary horns was less than spectacular and some of the early Meinl models were about as bad.

Does anyone know of ANY tubas that were great in their first runs? I'm just curious. Maybe start another thread.
Probably not, I'd imagine you have to mess up a few times before you get it just right, but I'm not exactly well read enough to probably contribute
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tuben wrote:
bort wrote:IIRC...

30 = standard w/4 valves
31 = standard w/4 valves and detachable bell
32 = standard w/5 valves
33 = standard w/5 valves and detachable bell

35 = William Bell model w/4 valves
37 = William Bell model w/5 valves

I don't think there were different model numbers for the 35/37 depending on one-piece or detachable bell.
Adding to the confusion; Did not 'Bell' models include both horizontal and vertical (both wide and narrow) tuning slides?
Mine is vertical/narrow.
Pretty sure both the wide and the narrow tuning slides were vertical. EMC's has the wide main tuning slide, whereas yours has the narrow main tuning slide.
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tuben wrote:My 1969 model 37(?)

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I wish I knew what year mine is from, I assume the wide tuning slide came later but there isn't a serial number to be found anywhere on my horn.
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tuben wrote:
EMC wrote:I wish I knew what year mine is from, I assume the wide tuning slide came later but there isn't a serial number to be found anywhere on my horn.
Mine has it scribed on the second rotor casing.
I'll check that! I've only checked the lead pipe the bell.
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Cerveny puts it on the bridge for the rotors... not saying MW ever has done this, but it's another oddball place to check.
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Is it possible that everything about it is MW EXCEPT for the bell itself? Could the bell be Alex or Miraphone?
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barry grrr-ero wrote:Is it possible that everything about it is MW EXCEPT for the bell itself? Could the bell be Alex or Miraphone?
I never thought of that...
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