Little Creek VA: Center of Military Music(I was told)

wooliteeuph · Post by **wooliteeuph** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:12 pm

I have a question for all of you that went through this. I am going to basic training next month for the navy I was wondering if it is a situation in which you go striaght to the school after basic, or do you have to wait till a certain time period.

greatk82 · Post by **greatk82** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:56 pm

I am an Army Tubist with the 4th Infantry Division Band out of Fort Hood, Texas. I graduated the School Of Music in November, 2002 and I have quite a few friends in staff or faculty there now. Please contact me via email with specific questions so that I can better help you.

tj
thomas.j.kurczewski@us.army.mil

ai698 · Post by **ai698** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:16 pm

Since I'm in a National Guard band and prior service and a music degree, I don't get to go to the SOM for any training. It's a $$ thing. I've heard so much about it I would like to go just to go, but not on the band's dollar.

We just had two former members graduate the SOM, one's at Ft. Benning's Infantry Center and the other's going 82nd Airborne band. If they would not have passed, it would have been 11B, 31B or 88M for them.

The reserve component bands now send new personnel to the SOM during the summer for a shortened 4 week RC course instead of an active duty band for OJT. This summer will be the first year for it.

Tom Gregory · Post by **Tom Gregory** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:46 pm

Hello new Navy guy,
You will have the option of having the navy send you directly to the school or take leave and get there on your own (I think). I agree with all that was said about the school and the library. There was a video of Al Baer doing the John Williams in a Roger Bobo masterclass. Check it out if it is still there. Plenty of great stuff.

Good luck,
Tom Gregory, USN 1992-1999 (more than enough!)
CINCLANT fleet band
NB Great Lakes

sinfonian · Post by **sinfonian** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:44 pm

The elephant Said

but if you are 21 you can go to the EM club, which is called Jimmi's

I was never in the military myself but my dad was a CPO in the Navy and instructor at Great Lakes back in the 80s. I remember him telling me that the men under 21 could be served at the club on the base but once they were served they could not leave for the base for the night. Did the military change their rules?

Just curious.

Joe Baker · Post by **Joe Baker** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:32 pm

I don't know squat about the military or THEIR rules, but legal drinking age just about everywhere was 18 back in the 80s.
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Joe Baker, whose wife turned 21 four months after they changed it, so she was not legal, then legal, then not legal again, then legal again!

ThomasDodd · Post by **ThomasDodd** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:08 pm

Don't know much about SOM, but the rest sounds familiar.

A bit saddened that the 4 man rooms and 1 head per floor is gone. One thing I don't miss is buffing the floors, or walking out with boots in hand so as not to scuff the floors the next morning.

Wade, not surprized that Marines and soldier didn't mingle much

1990 in Millington (outside Memphis) the EM club would serve anyone. I don't think they were supposed to, but don't ask don't tell was more the rule of the day.

sinfonian · Post by **sinfonian** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:24 am

1990 in Millington (outside Memphis) the EM club would serve anyone. I don't think they were supposed to, but don't ask don't tell was more the rule of the day.

I think that is the way it should be. If someone is old enough to defend their country (even if it is only with a Sousaphone) they should be allow to drink on base.

Chuck Jackson · Post by **Chuck Jackson** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:50 am

FLUSH!!!!!!!!

Oh my God, I was almost over the flashbacks, Wade. Cold in the winter, hot in the summer. 100 guys for every girl. No beer goggles needed. Jimmies, FORRIS FULFURD and his amazing leather coat and hat, Earl Kupurski( the Good Soldier Schweik of the SOM), units, F1 and F2, rehearsal band(where I first sat next to you and was amazed by your double tounging on Invictus) MCUM Dave Johnson conducting, the parties, Larry Ferdinand, Big Dave Durrough, Jake and the rest of the crazies.
Seems like a galaxy a long time ago in another universe. Thanks for the memories.

Chuck Jackson
Tuba Instructor, SOM, 1986-1989
Army Ground Forces Band- 1989-1992
8th Army Seoul ROK 192-1993
Continental Army Band-1993-1996
PFC- 1996-Present

ThomasDodd · Post by **ThomasDodd** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 11:18 am

Chuck Jackson wrote:PFC- 1996-Present

I wonder how many here get that....

Joe Baker · Post by **Joe Baker** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:16 pm

ThomasDodd wrote:
Chuck Jackson wrote:PFC- 1996-Present
I wonder how many here get that....

Just a guess....

Private F---ing Citizen?
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Joe Baker, who loves to guess but is almost always wrong!

Chuck Jackson · Post by **Chuck Jackson** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 3:46 pm

Well Wade, he's won an all expenses paid, 4 year vacation in Uncle Sam's Happy Camping Club, complete with snazzy clothing, bad haircuts and an environment that equates your intelligence with your rank. And if he makes it 20 years, he is gauranteed a substandard pension and some of the worst medical care outside of the the Third World. Other than that, every meal is a feast and every payday you'll feel like Rockefeller.

Chuck"who actually enjoyed his time in the military immensely, but thought he ought to get on with his life before he got too old"Jackson

Mike Finn · Post by **Mike Finn** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:15 pm

Yeah, I got out as an E4 but I've been a PFC ever since. Or, as my DI's would have said, "fat and happy."
My wife had to ask "what are you laughing about?" when I read the "flush!" post, I nearly busted a gut.
The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Chuck Jackson
Tuba Instructor, SOM, 1986-1989

Dang, I just missed you. Not that I didn't enjoy Ray Becker, but the stories I've heard about you guys (from Joe B. if I remember) lead me to believe I might have even had a wilder time.
Hey did you guys hear the local union raised a stink last year and basically booted all the military guys out of the Tidewater Winds? That seriously depleted the low brass section. let me tell you. Oh well...
MF

Chuck Jackson · Post by **Chuck Jackson** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 6:55 pm

Mike,

It definitely was a wild time. Great students, great Officers (if you can believe it, but it was true), great teachers, alot of comraderie between the services, and NO DRILL SARGEANTS. I am sorry I missed you.

I played in the Winds for 4 summers(86-89), all with Sid Berg(may God rest his gruff soul), and the band would have been nowhere without the military guys. The Union had no business keeping the Military guys out ESPECIALLY if they were card carrying members. That would have been Al Ascercion's call, and he being a former Master Chief, would lustily welcome all the military crazies. Some things never cease to amaze me. Hope all is well in Va Beach. We will be back in June and July to visit Blair's family, I hope we can meet and have a malt based adult beverage or 7.

Chuck"who can't wait to move back to Norfolk and hang at the beach before he is too old to wear shorts"Jackson

manatee · Post by **manatee** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 6:57 pm

I didn't know anything about the Circle of Fifths before going to the School. . . But I learned. . . Everclear, 151, Wild Turkey. . .