Orchestra-Owned

[Steve Marcus]

What other professional orchestras and other ensembles besides Boston, Chicago, and Bayerischer Staatsoper own the tuba(s) that their tubist(s) regularly play, what model tuba(s) are they. and what history is behind the instruments' acquisition/selection?

The military ensembles commonly supply fine instruments to their tubists. Examples?

[b.williams]

Navy Music program in the 1980s provided me with an old 1241 King then a new Miraphone 186 BBb.

[nimrod480]

Iceland Symphony Orchestra which I play in owns an 6450/2.

[Tom]

I was thinking that the Dallas Symphony may have purchased a 2265...(??)

Yes.

MW 2265/2 CC, MW Fafner BBb, and Yamaha 321 euphonium are all orchestra owned amongst a variety of other wind, brass, and percussion instruments. The DSO also owns a Cerveny F tuba (vintage, ex-Vanni) though it is not used in performance these days.

A donor made significant funds available to the orchestra for principal player projects and equipment acquisition.

[bort]

And i thought that donors only paid for the chairs they sit in...

To what extent do donors get to stipulate how the money I spent? Like, could a donor agree to buy a tuba, not a snooze-old-news 6/4 York-style blah blah blah...?

[pgym]

To what extent do donors get to stipulate how the money I spent?

Donor stipulations made prior to making a donation are legally binding. If management is either unwilling or unable to comply with the donor's stipulations, the donation must be declined or, if already received, returned.

[doublebuzzing]

Considering the financial trouble that most orchestras are in, the management must love it when a donor stipulates that his donation must be spent on buying a $20,000 tuba that the tuba player might or might not like.

[The Big Ben]

Considering the financial trouble that most orchestras are in, the management must love it when a donor stipulates that his donation must be spent on buying a $20,000 tuba that the tuba player might or might not like.

Hopefully, the donor and orchestra management can be on the same page regarding the health of the orchestra.

[Tom]

Considering the financial trouble that most orchestras are in, the management must love it when a donor stipulates that his donation must be spent on buying a $20,000 tuba that the tuba player might or might not like.

Hopefully, the donor and orchestra management can be on the same page regarding the health of the orchestra.

There are many different levels and types of donors, and there are some that like their donation to be used to buy "stuff" rather than for general operating support. Some like to buy naming rights for buildings, some like to endow chairs...it goes on and on. It's not just tubas these types of donors go for either, it's everything from pianos to violins and everything in between.

When a donor comes along willing to hand over their dollars, unless the stipulations put on the donation are impossible (and I mean impossible, not just 'difficult') to fulfill, the orchestra I work with doesn't say no.

You don't ever know if that donor will come back around with an additional donation in the future or will leave their estate to the orchestra or what, which is why you don't say no to the donor that wants to buy the orchestra a tuba.

[Michael Bush]

To what extent do donors get to stipulate how the money I spent?

Donor stipulations made prior to making a donation are legally binding. If management is either unwilling or unable to comply with the donor's stipulations, the donation must be declined or, if already received, returned.

Well, maybe in some states. Not where I've worked in development (academic, not orchestra). However, it's foolish in the extreme with most donors to accept a gift for one thing and use it for another. Unfortunately it happens pretty often. I have always been very strict about donor intent, but that has led to some tense moments with operations officers from time to time.

At any rate, alternatives can always be negotiated and in fact I think they should be and should be included in the gift agreement.

[pgym]

To what extent do donors get to stipulate how the money I spent?

Donor stipulations made prior to making a donation are legally binding. If management is either unwilling or unable to comply with the donor's stipulations, the donation must be declined or, if already received, returned.

Well, maybe in some states. Not where I've worked in development (academic, not orchestra).

You (or the development office of the institutions you work/ed for) might want to query the school's outside legal counsel about the Uniform Trust Code, particularly as it applies to the use and management of restricted gifts and whether or not there are fiduciary duties (there are) to use to donor-restricted gifts for the donor's expressed purposes.

At any rate, alternatives can always be negotiated and in fact I think they should be and should be included in the gift agreement.

Yes, alternatives can be negotiated, but the time for such negotiations is BEFORE the donation has been accepted. At the very least, alternative use(s) should be agreed upon BEFORE the institution has begun to use the donation for other than its stated purpose.