Will epoxy stick to brass?
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Re: Will epoxy stick to brass?
Yes.
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- Rick F
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Re: Will epoxy stick to brass?
I've used epoxy to attach a 19mm socket to the bottom 4th valve cap of my Yamaha 641 to make it a "heavy valve cap". That's a chrome finished socket to silver finished brass cap. It works fine and has been like that for about six years without falling off. Not sure if I'd ever be able to separate two, but no big deal as it was a spare cap.


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Re: Will epoxy stick to brass?
I did fill it with 50/50 lead/tin solder double wrapped around a screw driver shank then slid off into the socket so as not to block the valve vent. That added a fair amount of weight to the socket. And yes, I did leave the 3/8 square drive opening out. Also used the 24 hours-to-set epoxy. Here are a couple more pics:



I think the trumpet players were the first to mess around with heavy valve caps. Adding a heavy cap to the 4th valve of a 3+1 compensator really does help in my opinion. The 4th valve is kind of hanging out there in the breeze so there's not as much mass as there is with the 3 valve cluster. It helped with response of the lower range... adding two more lower notes to the horn. YMMV



I think the trumpet players were the first to mess around with heavy valve caps. Adding a heavy cap to the 4th valve of a 3+1 compensator really does help in my opinion. The 4th valve is kind of hanging out there in the breeze so there's not as much mass as there is with the 3 valve cluster. It helped with response of the lower range... adding two more lower notes to the horn. YMMV
Miraphone 5050 - Warburton BJ/RF mpc
YEP-641S (recently sold), DE mpc (102 rim; I-cup; I-9 shank)
Symphonic Band of the Palm Beaches:
"Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
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Symphonic Band of the Palm Beaches:
"Always play with a good tone, never louder than lovely, never softer than supported." - author unknown.
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Re: Will epoxy stick to brass?
Definitely sand, or rough up both surfaces to be bonded. I've epoxied stuff to a brass putter and the bond worked well. Why not try some golf club lead tape? Its easily adjusted and easier to remove.
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Re: Will epoxy stick to brass?
I meant use lead tape in lieu of the counter weight, but you'd have to wrap about 5 feet of lead tape on it. I didn't know tbone counterweights were that heavy
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Re: Will epoxy stick to brass?
Ah, I see! I misunderstood the question completely, haha! Epoxy will work well. Brass shims are popular for golf shaft tips - which are epoxied in place - so it should work fine.
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Re: Will epoxy stick to brass?
A torch will easily cook off epoxy if needed.
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Re: Will epoxy stick to brass?
try this....
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(watch the accompanying video/commercial....hilarious....)
kk
https://www.fiberfix.com" target="_blank
(watch the accompanying video/commercial....hilarious....)
kk
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Re: Will epoxy stick to brass?
Is that a Besson (Stratford)? It looks just like mine except with the silver bell and my counterweight is literally just a brass disc, no engravings or images or anything.
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Re: Will epoxy stick to brass?
I need fiber fix in my life.ken k wrote:try this....
https://www.fiberfix.com" target="_blank" target="_blank
(watch the accompanying video/commercial....hilarious....)
kk
