Kind of Cheap BUT....

Sell and Buy equipment via Ebay and Craigslist
Forum rules
This is for posting links to off site deals that you are not personally selling,but wanting to pass along good deals
Post Reply
sousaphonehero
bugler
bugler
Posts: 67
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:15 pm

Kind of Cheap BUT....

Post by sousaphonehero »

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Schiller-Americ ... SwdGFYrJ3S" target="_blank
Looks cheap.
I thought this model was said to be bad...
Half the price of Mack Brass/Wessex F tubas
Interesting
Miraphone 186 CC 5v
Conn 21J
Buescher 4/4 Eb
Amati Kaiser Baritone
Wessex Trombone
User avatar
thevillagetuba
4 valves
4 valves
Posts: 695
Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:40 am
Location: Cleveland, OH
Contact:

Re: Kind of Cheap BUT....

Post by thevillagetuba »

58mark wrote:correct me if I am wrong, but isn't that the model that are so horribly Out Of Tune that when people sell them for cheap, the people that end up buying them usually just use them for parts?
That's what it looks like to me. Those sound ok, but the one I had (just stamped JinBao) didn't have any octaves that lined up.
Robert S. Pratt
B.M., M.M. Tuba Performance
Getzen G60 prototype
sousaphonehero
bugler
bugler
Posts: 67
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:15 pm

Re: Kind of Cheap BUT....

Post by sousaphonehero »

That's what I thought. Thanks.
Miraphone 186 CC 5v
Conn 21J
Buescher 4/4 Eb
Amati Kaiser Baritone
Wessex Trombone
Ace
5 valves
5 valves
Posts: 1395
Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 12:46 am
Location: Berkeley, CA

Re: Kind of Cheap BUT....

Post by Ace »

If I find that a certain tuba's octaves don't line up, I automatically wonder if the mouthpiece is wrong for that horn. An example from my very limited experience with these problems: I bought a Cerveny C/Bb 4 rotor upright euphonium and the octaves did not line up. At first I thought it was me causing the problem. Then the problem was instantly cured when I replaced the Cerveny 11C mouthpiece with a generic 3G.

Ace
sousaphonehero
bugler
bugler
Posts: 67
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:15 pm

Re: Kind of Cheap BUT....

Post by sousaphonehero »

So if I was to throw the valveset on a different bugle....
Probably not worth the risk
Miraphone 186 CC 5v
Conn 21J
Buescher 4/4 Eb
Amati Kaiser Baritone
Wessex Trombone
Michael Bush
FAQ Czar
Posts: 2338
Joined: Sat May 08, 2010 2:54 pm

Re: Kind of Cheap BUT....

Post by Michael Bush »

But if you bide your time, they can be had for something in the neighborhood of half that.
Tabor
4 valves
4 valves
Posts: 753
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2004 11:34 am
Location: New England

Re: Kind of Cheap BUT....

Post by Tabor »

I think the culprit IS the valve cluster, but along with the main slide. The real Firebird starts at .770, if I remember correctly, and expands through the valves. On the Chinese version, it is .748 all the way through, including the small leg of the main slide which then expands to about twice the size of the big side of the Martin mammoth main slide JUST in the main slide bend. The taper after the slide isn't too crazy to my eye. The large leg of the mts is huge.

I took one of these and switched out the bell with something with more pancake, switched the valves and replaced everything until after the large leg of the main slide with tubing so it would taper more slowly throughout and the pitch consistency improved a lot, but the sound was just dead...so it went back to the parts pile.
Tubas
Post Reply