Pittsburgh CL: King Monster Eb
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Re: Pittsburgh CL: King Monster Eb
Ambitious seller. I don't think I've ever heard a 3 valve Eb referred to as a "professional" instrument.
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Re: Pittsburgh CL: King Monster Eb
... or anyone who has played a York Monster or a King 1235 with decent valves ...KiltieTuba wrote:Don't say anything to the Europeans....kmorgancraw wrote:Ambitious seller. I don't think I've ever heard a 3 valve Eb referred to as a "professional" instrument.
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Re: Pittsburgh CL: King Monster Eb
At the time these were made, a 3 valve Eb was a professional horn. Now, not so much. However, for a well cared for example with good valves, these can perform quite well for most situations.
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1892 Courtiere (J.W. Pepper Import) Helicon Eb
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2007 Miraphone 383 Starlight
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1892 Courtiere (J.W. Pepper Import) Helicon Eb
1980's Yamaha 321 euphonium
2007 Miraphone 383 Starlight
2010 Kanstul 66T
2016 Bubbie Mark 5
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Re: Pittsburgh CL: King Monster Eb
Looks like someone did a serious extension to the MTS
i am sure it was added to compensate for the original HP tuning.
http://www.hnwhite.com/King/Low%20Brass ... 0Large.jpg" target="_blank
i am sure it was added to compensate for the original HP tuning.
http://www.hnwhite.com/King/Low%20Brass ... 0Large.jpg" target="_blank
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1938 King 1236 Symphony Eb (4P) w/Monster Bell
1927 Buescher Eb Tuba
1940 Pan American 58C Eb Alto Horn
1938 King 1236 Symphony Eb (4P) w/Monster Bell
1927 Buescher Eb Tuba
1940 Pan American 58C Eb Alto Horn
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Re: Pittsburgh CL: King Monster Eb
That slide looks just like the one on my 1258 (ca 1919). According to provenance from its previous owner (a trusted source), it is all original.tubapix wrote:Looks like someone did a serious extension to the MTS
i am sure it was added to compensate for the original HP tuning.
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It was fairly common in those days to offer instruments in both high and low pitch. Two of the York Monsters that I own handled it differently:
1. 1905 Top action uses the "W" shaped MTS crook (I'm assuming that a "U" shaped slide would make it HP).
2. 1917 Front action has a curly cue which allows insertion of a short slide to either route the air through the curly cue (low pitch) or bypass it (high pitch).
Note the similar long MTS on my King 1258:
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Re: Pittsburgh CL: King Monster Eb
Does that raincatcher/sousaphone play at modern pitch with that long main slide? I love that you can have it configured both ways!
Jordan
King 2341 with a Holton "Monster" Eb bell
Eb Frankentuba
Martin Medium Eb Helicon
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King 2341 with a Holton "Monster" Eb bell
Eb Frankentuba
Martin Medium Eb Helicon
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Re: Pittsburgh CL: King Monster Eb
Yes, as pictured it plays perfectly A=440hz at around 70F so plenty of room for ambient temperature adjustment.Tubajug wrote:Does that raincatcher/sousaphone play at modern pitch with that long main slide? I love that you can have it configured both ways!
This is the perfect tuba: nearly "point and shoot" when played as a three valve, the forth gives some alternates for some easier long notes. With my "1251" conversion (made from two other horns and a home fabricated tenon), it's great for indoors (as Sousa intended) in original configuration as well as "blast it forward" for outdoor gigs with the bell front rig.
The biggest problem for me is that most of my gigs are in bars so I usually don't risk trashing this beautiful old instrument.
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Re: Pittsburgh CL: King Monster Eb
It certainly is beautiful!
Jordan
King 2341 with a Holton "Monster" Eb bell
Eb Frankentuba
Martin Medium Eb Helicon
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving's probably not for you.
King 2341 with a Holton "Monster" Eb bell
Eb Frankentuba
Martin Medium Eb Helicon
If at first you don't succeed, skydiving's probably not for you.