Seeking CC Helicon (Found One/Purchased)
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- TubaDude
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Seeking CC Helicon (Found One/Purchased)
Looking to pickup a CC Helicon, or BBb candidate for modification. Any info appreciated.
Thank you all, this is a fantastic community, I really do appreciate all the leads that came in over the past several weeks.
Mike
Thank you all, this is a fantastic community, I really do appreciate all the leads that came in over the past several weeks.
Mike
Last edited by TubaDude on Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
TubaDude
1909 King Helicon with 4th Valve Added
1913 York 4 Valve Eb/C Helicon (for sale)
1909 King Helicon with 4th Valve Added
1913 York 4 Valve Eb/C Helicon (for sale)
- Ltrain
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Re: Seeking CC Helicon
Yep, me too! [Gets in line]
If all else fails, maybe we could find a few more nutters like us and place a custom volume order with JinBao!
If all else fails, maybe we could find a few more nutters like us and place a custom volume order with JinBao!
Eastman 853 Eb ("Edith")
1963 King 1250 Sousaphone ("Jackie O")
Aguilar Amplification
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Founder, L Train Brass Band
1963 King 1250 Sousaphone ("Jackie O")
Aguilar Amplification
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Founder, L Train Brass Band
- Heliconer
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Re: Seeking CC Helicon
Ive got a Martin Mammoth sousa Body, with a trimmed Mira 186 bell. I also have an old .860 kaiser helicon valve set (4 valves, no tubes, rotor body only)
Yes, available.
Yes, available.
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- tubadoctor
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Re: Seeking CC Helicon
For what it's worth, I finally got around to having Dan Oberloh do a valve job on that 38K CC project I picked up a while ago... Summer is going to be super busy, but once I can finish that cool old Conn up I'll be listing it here... or at least posting pics of the rebuild... I'm too dorky not to keep such a cool sousaphone, but I've got other projects to fund and other sousaphones I gig on, so rather than relearn all my head charts up a step I'd probably sell it anyway...
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Re: Seeking CC Helicon
I bet Wessex is working on this!
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Re: Seeking CC Helicon
Not fast enough for my summer gigs!UncleBeer wrote:I bet Wessex is working on this!
Eastman 853 Eb ("Edith")
1963 King 1250 Sousaphone ("Jackie O")
Aguilar Amplification
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Founder, L Train Brass Band
1963 King 1250 Sousaphone ("Jackie O")
Aguilar Amplification
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Founder, L Train Brass Band
- TubaDude
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Re: Seeking CC Helicon
How does the Martin play? Do you have any pics?Heliconer wrote:Ive got a Martin Mammoth sousa Body, with a trimmed Mira 186 bell. I also have an old .860 kaiser helicon valve set (4 valves, no tubes, rotor body only)
Yes, available.
TubaDude
1909 King Helicon with 4th Valve Added
1913 York 4 Valve Eb/C Helicon (for sale)
1909 King Helicon with 4th Valve Added
1913 York 4 Valve Eb/C Helicon (for sale)
- Ltrain
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Re: Seeking CC Helicon
I have a CC sousa for sale in the classifieds. Could be good starting point!
Eastman 853 Eb ("Edith")
1963 King 1250 Sousaphone ("Jackie O")
Aguilar Amplification
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Founder, L Train Brass Band
1963 King 1250 Sousaphone ("Jackie O")
Aguilar Amplification
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Founder, L Train Brass Band
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Re: Seeking CC Helicon
If I were looking for a CC helicon, I would either go for the prototype CC already mentioned, or Carl's 4V Sousa ( viewtopic.php?f=25&t=79131" target="_blank )
Once you put a helicon style bell on it, it would probably be close to B, so you could find a bit more tubing to remove, then of course from each valve circuit.
Or...
Just play a BBb sousa (not my preference either)
Once you put a helicon style bell on it, it would probably be close to B, so you could find a bit more tubing to remove, then of course from each valve circuit.
Or...
Just play a BBb sousa (not my preference either)
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Re: Seeking CC Helicon
That Dynasty's leadpipe goes directly into the valve circuit, leaving no substantial cylindrical tubing to be removed. Many Buescher, King, and Jupiter (only 3V version) models have about 2ft of tubing before the valve circuit as the main tuning slide.DouglasJB wrote:If I were looking for a CC helicon, I would either go for the prototype CC already mentioned, or Carl's 4V Sousa ( viewtopic.php?f=25&t=79131" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank" target="_blank )
Once you put a helicon style bell on it, it would probably be close to B, so you could find a bit more tubing to remove, then of course from each valve circuit.
Any other configuration such as this Dynasty would involve removing conical tubing... not only would this be taxing on the tech ($$$$), it would produce unpredictable intonation issues (such as partials not in tune with each other).
Last edited by Ltrain on Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Eastman 853 Eb ("Edith")
1963 King 1250 Sousaphone ("Jackie O")
Aguilar Amplification
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Founder, L Train Brass Band
1963 King 1250 Sousaphone ("Jackie O")
Aguilar Amplification
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Founder, L Train Brass Band
- TubaDude
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Re: Seeking CC Helicon
I've got a master brass engineer/craftsman working on cutting a BBb Beuscher body down to a CC and grafting on a valve assembly. Once it's completed I'll post it to the board.DouglasJB wrote:If I were looking for a CC helicon, I would either go for the prototype CC already mentioned, or Carl's 4V Sousa ( viewtopic.php?f=25&t=79131" target="_blank" target="_blank )
Once you put a helicon style bell on it, it would probably be close to B, so you could find a bit more tubing to remove, then of course from each valve circuit.
Or...
Just play a BBb sousa (not my preference either)
TubaDude
1909 King Helicon with 4th Valve Added
1913 York 4 Valve Eb/C Helicon (for sale)
1909 King Helicon with 4th Valve Added
1913 York 4 Valve Eb/C Helicon (for sale)