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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Wyvern » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:24 pm

Nothing can be certain until prototype completed and successful, but here are some plans to help people consider their spending;

To be on website shorty (certain)

French C tuba (6-valves)
Compensated Bb 4-valve baritone
4/4 front piston BBb tuba (4 and 5 valve versions)
19” bell front valve compensated Eb tuba
Over the shoulder Eb tuba/saxhorn
New Bass trombone (designed by Chis Stearn of Scottish Opera)
New F Contrabass trombone with regular rotary valves
New Bb/F 0.547” tenor trombone (in the slide tuning)
Duplex two bell euphonium
3/4 compensated front valve CC tuba Hussar

Under development 2018

6/4 British 3+1 Compensated BBb Leviathan
British 3+1 compensated F tuba
CC Helicon
Fully handmade new compensated euphonium with trigger
German Kaiser BBb tuba
CC/BBb piston valve cimbasso
Handmade front piston F tuba
0.75” bore Monster Eb tuba (new design)

And others not yet planned...which may even be out first if ‘quick-win’

Sorry I won’t enter into discussion on the details of the above although are happy to consider ideas you post
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Mark Finley » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:53 pm

That's a pretty cool list!
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby UncleBeer » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:48 am

Wyvern wrote:Nothing can be certain until prototype completed and successful


Yep. Instrument design still involves a big slice of trial and error. I was told at the Melton (Meinl-Weston) plant years ago that fully 3/4 of their prototypes end up taken apart or hidden away because they had wonky intonation or inconsistent resonance ('dead' areas).
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Sousaswag » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:39 am

Both those Eb's sound exciting. Before I bought the BBb, I nearly got a Pt-22p.. I'll have to keep an eye on this forum now!
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby dasanchezr » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:26 am

What about a CC 6/4 rotary tuba? Something in the line with a Neptune or similar
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Wyvern » Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:59 am

dasanchezr wrote:What about a CC 6/4 rotary tuba? Something in the line with a Neptune or similar

We could, but I perceive low demand against piston valves 6/4 CC. Maybe in 2019?
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby kathott » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:25 pm

New Models: The (old) British F Tuba.
Many requests here seem intent on obtaining a cheaper version of existing models, or tweaking previous design concepts. Financial priorities are a reality, but sometimes short sighted. When cost is the overriding factor, the musical gains often suffer.
My own personal desire would be to bring back a "lost sound" - that of the old B&H "F" tuba, a sound now only heard via recordings. We have a huge lot of German and American type instruments now, even a revival of the old French tuba. However, considering the fact that many late Romantic/early modern British composers used the old British "F" as their model, I feel that a market exists for such an instrument, with real performance potential.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby DouglasJB » Sun Jan 07, 2018 10:27 pm

I'd second a LARGE 6/4 Rotary CC.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Ken Crawford » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:25 am

Wyvern wrote:
dasanchezr wrote:What about a CC 6/4 rotary tuba? Something in the line with a Neptune or similar

We could, but I perceive low demand against piston valves 6/4 CC. Maybe in 2019?


And please, please, for the love of all that is good, go to this style:

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If Schiller can do it, so can you.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Wyvern » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:45 am

kmorgancraw wrote:And please, please, for the love of all that is good, go to this style:

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We already have! All new Wessex have levers of the B&S design (not Miraphone) in SOLID NICKEL (strong!)
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Ken Crawford » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:52 am

To clarify: All new rotary valve wessex tubas now have this style linkage? Not just new models, but on every older model as well?
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Wyvern » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:07 pm

kmorgancraw wrote:To clarify: All new rotary valve wessex tubas now have this style linkage? Not just new models, but on every older model as well?

Yes - I don't think we have any old stock with anything else. Most also have removable Z valves, better than supplied by any other company, as they are easy to take out and clean (or even replace).

The rotary valves on new Wessex are quiet and reliable - I will not accept anything else.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Ken Crawford » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:17 pm

Well that's a game changer. You should update your marketing to reflect these amazing changes.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Wyvern » Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:19 pm

kmorgancraw wrote:Well that's a game changer. You should update your marketing to reflect these amazing changes.

I will get photographed when we are next shooting rotary tuba for website and put up
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby dasanchezr » Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:22 pm

Wyvern wrote:
kmorgancraw wrote:And please, please, for the love of all that is good, go to this style:

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We already have! All new Wessex have levers of the B&S design (not Miraphone) in SOLID NICKEL (strong!)


Then I made up mi mind I am buying a Berg Soon
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Ken Crawford » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:18 pm

When are those new photos hitting the website?
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby WagnerRing » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:21 pm

Wyvern wrote:Nothing can be certain until prototype completed and successful, but here are some plans to help people consider their spending;

Under development 2018
German Kaiser BBb tuba


I'll be very interested in hearing more about the German Kaiser BBb tuba when details are available. There are some great models in development by Wessex, and it's good to see continuing evolution of quality and design.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Wyvern » Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:54 pm

WagnerRing wrote:
Wyvern wrote:Nothing can be certain until prototype completed and successful, but here are some plans to help people consider their spending;

Under development 2018
German Kaiser BBb tuba


I'll be very interested in hearing more about the German Kaiser BBb tuba when details are available. There are some great models in development by Wessex, and it's good to see continuing evolution of quality and design.

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The Kaiser tuba will be based on classic B&F design, but we are working to improve intonation while retaining the great tone of these tubas (the ideal German tuba tone IMHO). The Kaiser is being developed with input from Daniel Ridder of the Musikcorp der Bundeswehr in Germany who we plan will check out the prototype at the factory in August before we go into production. The Kaiser, like the Wessex Chicago CC, will be hand-hammered and therefore lightweight, just like the original horns.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby lowtones425 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:05 pm

So... This would obviously be a bit of a niche instrument, but I'd like to see a 3/4 Rotary CC tuba with 5 valves, about the size and relative shape of a Miraphone 184 but shorter in height, with a valveset similar in layout to a rotor PT6. (Wide main tuning slide pointed straight down and compact upper slide setup) On this instrument, it would be amazing to have a detachable bell so that the instrument could travel more easily on a plane (a la Kanstul suitcase tuba). My reason for suggesting this particular design is so that pit tuba players might have a travel friendly compact instrument with 5 valves.
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Re: Wessex Tubas - what would you like?

Postby Doc » Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:19 pm

Wyvern wrote:Nothing can be certain until prototype completed and successful, but here are some plans to help people consider their spending;

Under development 2018
German Kaiser BBb tuba...


...The Kaiser tuba will be based on classic B&F design, but we are working to improve intonation while retaining the great tone of these tubas (the ideal German tuba tone IMHO). The Kaiser is being developed with input from Daniel Ridder of the Musikcorp der Bundeswehr in Germany who we plan will check out the prototype at the factory in August before we go into production. The Kaiser, like the Wessex Chicago CC, will be hand-hammered and therefore lightweight, just like the original horns.


You have my full attention!
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