snicker...OK, LAUGH !!!

[TubaRay]

I've never known two grown men to have a "catfight" before. I didn't know this was possible.

[carolyn catton]

Me neither. As demonstrated, it seems to be, though....

[Rick Denney]

Me neither. As demonstrated, it seems to be, though....

No. With guys, it's a pissing match. And the reason we don't complain is that the match is between two masters of the art, and the rest of us find it entertaining.

Rick "far more disturbed by the disclosing of a private email" Denney

[Matt Higgins]

Good for use in a restaurant??!!!??????!!!!!????!!!

GRRRRRRRRR. . . . . . .

[Henry]

[quote="carolyn catton"]So I just spent a few minutes reading this somewhat interesting post on the York on eBay, only to have it end in a stunningly childish catfight between two grown men. Can you guys maybe do it over e-mail, phone, or in person, so the rest of us don't have to read it? Thanks[/quote]

What on earth is it that makes you feel, "compelled to read it?" The friction of human interaction is one of the more engaging aspects of any BBS. There's no particular harm here- it's not exactly analogous to cock-fighting..... Averting your eyes at the critical juncture would probably suffice. I understand there's an arrangement of "Kumbayah" available for tuba at sheetmusic.com.......

[Henry]

That came out far more abusive than I had intended. My apologies to MS Catton. While I enjoy a heated but "within bounds of propriety" discussion- which this thread constituted IMHO- I responded to her objections a bit more personally than is probably appropriate.

[harold]

Well. let's get to the end of this.

First - I'm the guy that bought the York in question. I had never seen this design before with three up top and one on the side. I have not talked to anyone that has seen this configuration before - so I thought it might be an interesting horn to own.

Second - I have a fair amount of disposable income and could have paid far more for this instrument if I wanted. The reality is that the money is mine and I can spend it as foolishly as I want.

It is also very interesting to me that even though many of you have written how silly it was to purchase this horn for $2,225.00, I received no less than 11 e-mails from other people willing to buy it for the same price. Some of them have even derided me in this very post.

Third - I don't really care what anyone thinks - especially an "authority" like Charlie Krause. My goal is not to try and embarass or humiliate someone on-line. Perhaps this horn is my folly, but so be it. I have spend thousand of dollars on things of no value in the past and will probably do it again - but it is my money.

Fourth - the instrument arrived this morning. It actually plays better than I expected and the only real issue is the tear in the bell. It also needs a valve job, but it is nearly 90 years old. The serial number indicates that it was manufactured between 1914 and 1918.

I have asked Dan Oberloh to perform the restoration and I expect that when it is completed it will be worth far more than I paid for it - provided that I am willing to sell it. Looking at it now I believe that once the restoration is complete, it will sell for more than the $6,000.00 that I had stated.

As has already been said in this post, they don't make Yorks anymore. Well, this one will last for another few years because I am willing to throw money at it. I would think that you tuba purists would appreciate the fact that someone took something that a guy in Iowa was using as a flower pot and turned it back into the great piece of art and musical craftsmanship that was York - arguably one of the greatest manufacturers of tubas in the world.

[Bandmaster]

Well said Harold... different people have different reasons for wanting different horns. If it will make you happy... go for it!

I was shopping around for a "big bore" horn last December and January and was hoping to find a York or a Holton. Sure enough, a Holton 345 came up for sale on Ebay in January. I checked for comments about that Ebay listing here on the Tubanet and the comments doubted the quality of the horn. The seller was very open about the multiple patches on the bell. I discussed it with several repair technicians and the word was that the bell was repairable. So I bought the horn. As it turns out, I was the only bidder. Well, I got the horn... and so far I love it! Big, fat tone, and surprizingly well in tune. I enjoy this horn more than any other that I have played. I will really miss it for the time it will up with Dan Oberloh being restored later this summer.

[Sheritonjames]

Umm, just something I have noticed.... I once took an older horn in "high pitch" to a semi local repair facility to have a leak repaired around the 4th valve. The repair person... Took a Jab at the horn because it was apparently too " small" to be played....??????? what was that... my point is.. Someone liked this horn.. someone wanted to play this horn, and even if you personally don't like it or don't exactly have any philosophical views on its viablilty as anythign more than "trash" have a little respect, because as I can attest to.... that particular repair facility with the rest of that statements he made about the horn I want to restore won't get any business of mine ever....
SJ

[Duncan]

So I just spent a few minutes reading this somewhat interesting post on the York on eBay, only to have it end in a stunningly childish catfight between two grown men. Can you guys maybe do it over e-mail, phone, or in person, so the rest of us don't have to read it? Thanks

true this is a tuba forum not a beefing forum