German tenor tuba/baritone improvements and enhancements
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Re: German tenor tuba/baritone improvements and enhancements
The one from eBay?
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Re: German tenor tuba/baritone improvements and enhancements
FWIW, I've often thought about the prospect of putting a side-action piston valve set on one of these tenor tubas....
However, as far as I can see, finding a suitable valve set presents problems. King baritone (.562) would be too small - the next (readily available) size, Conn tuba at .656, too large.
I'm sure there's a Chinese-made one somewhere inbetween, but getting one is the problem. Also, there is (was) a small bore E flat Conn set made at .625, but with 4 valves are as rare as hen's teeth (and is also probably too large).
However, as far as I can see, finding a suitable valve set presents problems. King baritone (.562) would be too small - the next (readily available) size, Conn tuba at .656, too large.
I'm sure there's a Chinese-made one somewhere inbetween, but getting one is the problem. Also, there is (was) a small bore E flat Conn set made at .625, but with 4 valves are as rare as hen's teeth (and is also probably too large).
"Even a broken clock is right twice a day".
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Re: German tenor tuba/baritone improvements and enhancements
How about this for a 5th rotor?
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Re: German tenor tuba/baritone improvements and enhancements
Especially since they do that every day, in great numbers, and the overall cost will be less than your time making them that you would bill otherwise for other repairs!!!bloke wrote:Later, I'm going to ask Christian at Miraphone to please send me some cutesy little c. 8mm-to-10mm braces - but to exact dimensions - to brace up the #1 and #5 outside slide tubes. Could I make those braces on my lathe? sure. Do I want to? not when someone else can do it for me.
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Re: German tenor tuba/baritone improvements and enhancements
Is there any decent recording examples of the sound of the instrument?
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Re: German tenor tuba/baritone improvements and enhancements
Congrats on the build! Thanks for walking us through it.
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Re: German tenor tuba/baritone improvements and enhancements
Such an interesting sounding instrument! Pretty close to what I imagined. I'd love to try a horn like this out sometime.
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Re: German tenor tuba/baritone improvements and enhancements
In defense of the term "euphonium" that ypu are denying this instrument, that name is not English in origin: that term was coined by a German maker - and the inventor - and adopted later by other manufacturers. The one anomaly is the spelling: "euphonion."
The euphonium is a German invention.
The euphonium is a German invention.
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Re: German tenor tuba/baritone improvements and enhancements
I love it when a person finds the pearl in the pig pen. Congrats!bloke wrote:My mouthpiece search (ONE, that does EVERYTHING darn well...and I have found mouthpieces that do this/that/the-other well) has been somewhat exhaustive, and has delved deep into esoterica.
Some common mouthpieces do pretty well, and some exotics do pretty well.
A friend of mine picked up a 50-to-60 year-old mouthpiece on eBay that (when tested, as I'm restoring/re-plating it for them for use on another type of instrument) out-performs all the rest.
I contacted the original (European) supplier, and they found (only) one (old/new: box covered with dust) on the shelf.
I will have it, soon.
What is it?
Don't worry about it...I got the last one, and you don't play a kaiser bariton.
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