Jazz (Dixie?) guys....
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Traditional in the sense that nothing came before it of it's kind, and original to the South (Dixie-land).
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Re: Jazz (Dixie?) guys....
If you're talking aboutMaryAnn wrote:As someone who has never learned Southern culture, please tell me, even if via PM, what is wrong with the term Dixie. It appears to be a hot button and I'd like to know when to avoid saying it. To me, Dixieland has only had a reference to a certain type of music, which usually does have a clarinet doing the more soprano part.
... don't worry about that. You might be able to figure out some way to offend someone with that word, if you were sort of a semi-professional offensive person, but that has not been my impression."Dixie" (a word contained within the word "dixieland"), as being un-p.c., offensive, or even banned''
If you're talking about someone not really liking to hear his or her act called "dixieland", it could sure happen, but as you can see the terminology isn't rigorous. For me, usage from the first half of the 20th century is not very relevant - how people understand "Dixieland" today is about the examples they're familiar with today or in recent history. The modern examples you're getting on this thread, for example. Everyone knows the score, and I think all they can expect is that you be receptive to different nomenclature, if that's their preference.
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I do not care what you call it, where do you find it in written form to play it?
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Re: Jazz (Dixie?) guys....
That's like getting a summer breeze off the sea, by mail order from Amazon.I do not care what you call it, where do you find it in written form to play it?
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Alot of the old Turk Murphy & Firehouse 5+2 stuff was written into charts that various west coast bands have the collection of. Really tough stuff if you want to play it note for note, but fun.
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Re: Jazz (Dixie?) guys....
In response to Mr. Chowder: I have had the pleasure of playing classic jazz for more than 50 years with guys who never use written arrangements; most of us prefer not to read at all. (See, for example, http://galvanizedjazz.com/.)
For almost as many years I have been teaching myself to write arrangements for youth bands and "geezer" bands, attempting to make them sound as much as possible as if they were improvised. Groups using those arrangements sound surprisingly good so long as they stick to the ink, but being a good reader does not make you a good improviser.
I continue to do this for two reasons:
-It makes more people aware of our kind of music. They love it when they hear it, but they never encounter it on the radio or in schools.
-It occasionally plants a seed in a youngster who has talent, and years later that person is someone I can call when we need a replacement for an ailing colleague.
I can easily share charts as PDFs. I would also like to pass on some of them as Sibelius files, to be edited and improved by anyone who knows how. Anybody know a good drummer who understands our kind of music and also knows how to write a drum chart that is reasonably easy to read but appropriate for the style?
For almost as many years I have been teaching myself to write arrangements for youth bands and "geezer" bands, attempting to make them sound as much as possible as if they were improvised. Groups using those arrangements sound surprisingly good so long as they stick to the ink, but being a good reader does not make you a good improviser.
I continue to do this for two reasons:
-It makes more people aware of our kind of music. They love it when they hear it, but they never encounter it on the radio or in schools.
-It occasionally plants a seed in a youngster who has talent, and years later that person is someone I can call when we need a replacement for an ailing colleague.
I can easily share charts as PDFs. I would also like to pass on some of them as Sibelius files, to be edited and improved by anyone who knows how. Anybody know a good drummer who understands our kind of music and also knows how to write a drum chart that is reasonably easy to read but appropriate for the style?
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As a hack who has played all alone since 1970, this exposer to playing with other since this last summer has made me need to learn a lot of new songs very fast. The Blues class had a web site where you can print of copies of songs, and links to Youtube videos to practice with. The banjo group that I just started with also has a site where they have archived their music with links to audios where you can play along. The Banjos have transpose most the there music to just three keys, C, Bb, & Eb. Easy enough for a hack tuba player like myself. But the songs are not ones that I know. Their site even has the play list for passed years. As well as their Christmas play list. I now can print a copy of the latest play list and then make a book of my owe to practice from and be better prepared to give them a bass line.
When I play the cello with the Native American flutes, I am no more then a tuned drum. As they are usually adlibbing on the spot, and they only have a pentatonic scale. I usually play just four notes. They change keys, I change the four notes. Their music is not set in stone. There is no real frame other then tempo and key. But the Blues and the Banjo music require me to know where I am going, when the cord changes are, what and where to play to blend in and help make the song "Music". Therefore my questions about music sights that are very specific to the music it caters to.
Music library at home is over 12' long and 7' high, covering too many instruments and styles to list.
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When I play the cello with the Native American flutes, I am no more then a tuned drum. As they are usually adlibbing on the spot, and they only have a pentatonic scale. I usually play just four notes. They change keys, I change the four notes. Their music is not set in stone. There is no real frame other then tempo and key. But the Blues and the Banjo music require me to know where I am going, when the cord changes are, what and where to play to blend in and help make the song "Music". Therefore my questions about music sights that are very specific to the music it caters to.
Music library at home is over 12' long and 7' high, covering too many instruments and styles to list.
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That's awesome, would love to see that collection.Charlie C Chowder wrote:As a hack who has played all alone since 1970, this exposer to playing with other since this last summer has made me need to learn a lot of new songs very fast. The Blues class had a web site where you can print of copies of songs, and links to Youtube videos to practice with. The banjo group that I just started with also has a site where they have archived their music with links to audios where you can play along. The Banjos have transpose most the there music to just three keys, C, Bb, & Eb. Easy enough for a hack tuba player like myself. But the songs are not ones that I know. Their site even has the play list for passed years. As well as their Christmas play list. I now can print a copy of the latest play list and then make a book of my owe to practice from and be better prepared to give them a bass line.
When I play the cello with the Native American flutes, I am no more then a tuned drum. As they are usually adlibbing on the spot, and they only have a pentatonic scale. I usually play just four notes. They change keys, I change the four notes. Their music is not set in stone. There is no real frame other then tempo and key. But the Blues and the Banjo music require me to know where I am going, when the cord changes are, what and where to play to blend in and help make the song "Music". Therefore my questions about music sights that are very specific to the music it caters to.
Music library at home is over 12' long and 7' high, covering too many instruments and styles to list.
Charlie C. Chowder