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Postby sugawi » Fri May 17, 2019 5:50 pm

All Kanstul tooling and parts will be moved to Kansas City, Missouri.
All parts should be available for purchase in the couple of weeks and eventually tubas will be available for custom order though to set up manufacturing could take up to a year.
I have confirmed this information with B.A.C.
Kanstul brand was not sold and if it remains as is Kanstul models will be built under different name.
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Re: Kansas City here I come - Kanstul tooling bought by B.A.

Postby Will Jones » Fri May 17, 2019 11:47 pm

This is great news!!!

I hope they continue developing the designs. I love the euphonium, and that's what I play, but it was like Zig stopped at 95% when he realized the market was small. Fingers crossed!
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Postby Mark Finley » Fri May 17, 2019 11:49 pm

Oooo, just realized they will be able to build the kanstul contrabass trombone. I like that one!
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Postby SousaWarrior9 » Sat May 18, 2019 12:07 am

BAC is a fantastic company. The kanstul equipment is in good hands. This is great news.
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Postby groth » Sat May 18, 2019 1:44 am

Unless they can compete with the Red Wave financially it will end up another black hole money pit. The silver lining is however, someone is still making American tubas.
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Postby KiltieTuba » Sun May 19, 2019 10:03 pm

Mark Finley wrote:Oooo, just realized they will be able to build the kanstul contrabass trombone. I like that one!


OOH! I had not thought of this!
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Postby bort » Mon May 20, 2019 12:58 am

Kanstul would not build a rotary tuba.

I wonder if BAC is willing to give it a shot?
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Postby SousaWarrior9 » Mon May 20, 2019 8:13 am

bort wrote:Kanstul would not build a rotary tuba.

I wonder if BAC is willing to give it a shot?


Judging by their custom projects this far, it seems they're willing to build just about anything so long as one is willing to pay for it. So I'd reckon it seems hopeful that there will be one eventually but it might take a while.
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Postby toobagrowl » Mon May 20, 2019 10:04 am

First time I've ever heard of "B.A.C". Looking at their page, it looks like they specialize in trombones and trumpets. I would be surprised if they ever make custom-order tubas, even with the Kanstul equipment they will aquire. Guess time will tell......
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Postby KiltieTuba » Mon May 20, 2019 10:51 am

Kevin works there and is a tuba player. I’m sure he’ll want to work on tuba stuff.
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Postby Billy M. » Mon May 20, 2019 1:29 pm

bort wrote:Kanstul would not build a rotary tuba.

I wonder if BAC is willing to give it a shot?


Bort is already making plans to sell his PT-6... that wasn't long. :lol:
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Postby Tubainsauga » Mon May 20, 2019 1:32 pm

I'm excited to see what BAC will do with the tooling. Their trombones are absolutely gorgeous and apparently they play pretty well too. Considering how many horns Kanstul made based on vintage designs, it seems like it'll be a good match and I hope they eventually start up a tuba line. I'll start saving for a flying tuba now.
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Postby bort » Mon May 20, 2019 1:41 pm

Billy M. wrote:
bort wrote:Kanstul would not build a rotary tuba.

I wonder if BAC is willing to give it a shot?


Bort is already making plans to sell his PT-6... that wasn't long. :lol:


I'll even sell it to try and buy something that may or may not exist at some point in the future! :P
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Postby greenbean » Tue May 21, 2019 12:48 am

BAC has always been great at hype and promises. At some point, they will have to deliver the goods. Time will tell...
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Postby bloke » Sun May 26, 2019 11:26 pm

French Besson-style trumpets - OK, I guess...

tubas - :roll:
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Postby SousaWarrior9 » Mon May 27, 2019 1:12 am

greenbean wrote:BAC has always been great at hype and promises. At some point, they will have to deliver the goods. Time will tell...

Having played a number of their trombones and trumpets, I don't think they have any problems 'delivering the goods'. Their horns are the real deal, and at least in my opinion, most definitely live up to the hype and promises. I've always been bummed they haven't made a tuba as of yet, and I'm excited about the potential of such a horn, especially if their tubas are the same quality as their trombones and trumpets. And with Kevin on staff, I'm confident that, if they do get into the tuba market, they'll be solid horns to say the least.
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Postby Davidus1 » Mon May 27, 2019 10:45 am

SousaWarrior9 wrote:
greenbean wrote:BAC has always been great at hype and promises. At some point, they will have to deliver the goods. Time will tell...

Having played a number of their trombones and trumpets, I don't think they have any problems 'delivering the goods'. Their horns are the real deal, and at least in my opinion, most definitely live up to the hype and promises. I've always been bummed they haven't made a tuba as of yet, and I'm excited about the potential of such a horn, especially if their tubas are the same quality as their trombones and trumpets. And with Kevin on staff, I'm confident that, if they do get into the tuba market, they'll be solid horns to say the least.


That would be awesome. It would really be nice to maintain an American manufacturer of tubas. A highly endangered species! I know nothing of manufacturing but I'm sure its hard to maintain quality and produce enough to make it profitable. Hope it works for them. I've known others with the BAC trombones that rave about them.
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Postby toobagrowl » Mon May 27, 2019 4:08 pm

Some ppl here seem to think Kanstul was the only American maker of tubas; forgetting about Conn-Selmer. I mean, I'm not interested in the modern Conn-Selmer tubas (Conn and King) as they are just not made like they used to be made. And there are only a few models available that have been around a long time, mostly aimed at the school market. But at least they are still around.

As for B.A.C., does anyone there have experience or interest in actually building tubas and/or sousas? Seems to me building tubas from scratch would be MUCH more difficult, and take more skill and time to build than trombones and trumpets, which are probably the easiest of brass instruments to fabricate :idea:
Or maybe they will do custom jobs or refurbishing on existing tubas?
I will "believe it when I see it" regarding B.A.C. actually building tubas.... :wink:
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Postby SousaWarrior9 » Mon May 27, 2019 4:37 pm

toobagrowl wrote:As for B.A.C., does anyone there have experience or interest in actually building tubas and/or sousas? Seems to me building tubas from scratch would be MUCH more difficult, and take more skill and time to build than trombones and trumpets, which are probably the easiest of brass instruments to fabricate :idea:
Or maybe they will do custom jobs or refurbishing on existing tubas?
I will "believe it when I see it" regarding B.A.C. actually building tubas.... :wink:


Kevin has frankentuba building experience, I know, and I could see them getting into the tuba game as they expand. Probably won't be for a few years, but I can see it happening potentially.
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Postby Davidus1 » Mon May 27, 2019 6:06 pm

toobagrowl wrote:Some ppl here seem to think Kanstul was the only American maker of tubas; forgetting about Conn-Selmer. I mean, I'm not interested in the modern Conn-Selmer tubas (Conn and King) as they are just not made like they used to be made. And there are only a few models available that have been around a long time, mostly aimed at the school market. But at least they are still around.

As for B.A.C., does anyone there have experience or interest in actually building tubas and/or sousas? Seems to me building tubas from scratch would be MUCH more difficult, and take more skill and time to build than trombones and trumpets, which are probably the easiest of brass instruments to fabricate :idea:
Or maybe they will do custom jobs or refurbishing on existing tubas?
I will "believe it when I see it" regarding B.A.C. actually building tubas.... :wink:


I don't think people are forgetting that but in the last 75 years we've gone from many to few as far as instrument makers.......nice to see one stay around!
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