Keefer Sousaphone
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Keefer Sousaphone
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Re: Keefer Sousaphone
It looks beautiful.
But the location of the bell engraving is really strange. Like the bell flare was clocked over when assembled.
Are these horns related to Yorks?
But the location of the bell engraving is really strange. Like the bell flare was clocked over when assembled.
Are these horns related to Yorks?
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Re: Keefer Sousaphone
Does look Yorkish, doesn't it?
I think i have seen 40s Keefer Eb sousaphone that at least to my dubious memory wasn' dissimilar.
It had a much larger bell than i felt it should, and it had the loop in the 3rd valve circuit, which seems very unusual for Eb
I think i have seen 40s Keefer Eb sousaphone that at least to my dubious memory wasn' dissimilar.
It had a much larger bell than i felt it should, and it had the loop in the 3rd valve circuit, which seems very unusual for Eb
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Re: Keefer Sousaphone
Looks a _LOT_ like my c1925 York Helicon.
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Re: Keefer Sousaphone
Thanks for posting a picture to compare.
Seems like a very close match.
And as i remember the Eb, it still had the Keefer style leadpipe, just needing something akin to long bits. Rather than a goose neck.
If we care, we can ask seller about marks on valves.
Seems like a very close match.
And as i remember the Eb, it still had the Keefer style leadpipe, just needing something akin to long bits. Rather than a goose neck.
If we care, we can ask seller about marks on valves.
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Re: Keefer Sousaphone
I think it's likely a stencil, as I don't believe there's any direct connection between the two companies.
The top piston caps, ferrules, and what I can see from the bracing all look like York manufacture to me.
The top piston caps, ferrules, and what I can see from the bracing all look like York manufacture to me.
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Re: Keefer Sousaphone
I've seen a catalogue listing one of these things. If I can find the page I'll post it
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Re: Keefer Sousaphone
As I suspected, a York stencil.
Then again, it is a sousaphone, so there is an outside possibility that the bell alone is Keefer, while the body is most definitely York manufacture.
Paul, did you find that Keefer catalogue?
Then again, it is a sousaphone, so there is an outside possibility that the bell alone is Keefer, while the body is most definitely York manufacture.
Paul, did you find that Keefer catalogue?
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Re: Keefer Sousaphone
Yes, I have. They called this a Wagnerphone. If you go to Dave Detwiler's great site you'll find this horn as you scroll down. Based in Williamsport, PA, apparently. Oddly, the ad heralds a bell-up instrument! Made in "Monster and Pony Sizes", (first I've heard of the term "Pony Size"!).
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“Pony Size” is a 7oz bottle of Rolling Rock where I come from!!
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Re: Keefer Sousaphone
I did aak seller about valve markings, but didn't get a response.humBell wrote:Thanks for posting a picture to compare.
Seems like a very close match.
And as i remember the Eb, it still had the Keefer style leadpipe, just needing something akin to long bits. Rather than a goose neck.
If we care, we can ask seller about marks on valves.
And as promised, i dredged up a picture of what believe to be a 40s era Keefer Eb sousa.
Not like older Keefers with the valve block rotated and circuits going up, so they migh have had atencils or contracted out parts? As i said this still has the Older Keefer style leadpupe...
Anyway, more food for discussion.
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