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Re: Small shank mouthpiece

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iiipopes wrote:For clarity of nomenclature, Wick does NOT make a "3S."
Right, apparently they don't, but they do make a 3SL. They're a little unclear on the difference, but from the "Bright-toned mouthpiece idea for F tuba", one might guess "Shallow." Or "Sheridan." It wouldn't be any big surprise to hear that they've made it in a 3S small shank version, as pauvog1 surmised, though it isn't currently listed anywhere. It sure wouldn't be the thing for a BBb tuba.
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Re: Small shank mouthpiece

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Donn wrote:
iiipopes wrote:For clarity of nomenclature, Wick does NOT make a "3S."
Right, apparently they don't, but they do make a 3SL. They're a little unclear on the difference, but from the "Bright-toned mouthpiece idea for F tuba", one might guess "Shallow." Or "Sheridan." It wouldn't be any big surprise to hear that they've made it in a 3S small shank version, as pauvog1 surmised, though it isn't currently listed anywhere. It sure wouldn't be the thing for a BBb tuba.
Indeed. According to the Wick product chart, the "S" can also mean soloist. It is a shallow cup mouthpiece, which, as you surmise, is not designed for ensemble playing. Then again, I know trumpet players who use a Schilke 14A4a or a Jet-tone "dent-in-a-dime" mouthpiece for section work.
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Re: Small shank mouthpiece

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iiipopes wrote:
Big Toot wrote:I actually have a small receiver, and it won't accept any European or American shanked mouthpiece. If it is based off of an Eb/F mouthpiece, that may be part of my discontent with it then.
Apples and oranges. the Wick 3 mouthpiece is a rather deep funnel cup, but with a slightly smaller inside rim diameter. They make two models: the 3 (no letter), which is the small shank, and the 3L, which is the "American" shank. Unlike Perantucci, which arbitrarily labels certain mouthpieces as suitable for Eb/F, Wick does not differentiate. They do agree that the 3 is a good mouthpiece and widely used for a Besson Eb comp.

For clarity of nomenclature, Wick does NOT make a "3S." That is what some people call the smaller shank, when the correct model designation is 3 (no letter). By contrast, Perantucci, on the same shank size, does add the suffix "S," to distinguish as smaller than an American shank, or their hybrid shank size, which to fit as many tubas as possible without a custom order, seems to be now .520, between an "American" .510 and the "European" .530 shanks.

I suggest reading both the Denis Wick model chart, which can be downloaded from a number of sources, and Matt Walter's post, frequently quoted and copied, explaining the difference between tuba shank sizes, which the British old standard is not necessarily the same as "bass trombone" standard.
I had before I even purchased the Wick. All of it is moot at this point as it is in the shop having its receiver replaced by a King, standard-shank size.
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Donn wrote:
iiipopes wrote:For clarity of nomenclature, Wick does NOT make a "3S."
Right, apparently they don't, but they do make a 3SL. They're a little unclear on the difference, but from the "Bright-toned mouthpiece idea for F tuba", one might guess "Shallow." Or "Sheridan." It wouldn't be any big surprise to hear that they've made it in a 3S small shank version, as pauvog1 surmised, though it isn't currently listed anywhere. It sure wouldn't be the thing for a BBb tuba.
Yeah. I tried the uber cheap, unnamed mouthpiece I bought with the horn and it feels much better.
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