Complete Orchestral Exerpt Book?

smurphius · Post by **smurphius** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:05 am

Hi everybody. I was just wondering if there was a book out there anywhere that has a good selection of orchestral exerpts and where to purchase it? I have a decent selection of exerpts (everything on the Milwaukee list for example and many others), but I'm interested purchasing some kind of bound edition that has as many tuba exerpts that it can. I'm sure if there is such a thing, it's sort of expensive, but well worth the investment.

Thanks!!

MM

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:29 am

I'd start buying up every volume of the Torchinsky "Tuba Players Orchestral Rep" books I could find if I wanted "everything."

Not a single volume, and not cheap by any means (16 volumes @ c.$25 each for the one that are still in print), but if you can get all of these, along with the extremely elusive "20th Century Orchestral Studies" book, you've got practically everything.

tubaman5150 · Post by **tubaman5150** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:48 am

The closest thing I've seen is Cherry Classics excerpt CD.
Find it here: http://www.cherry-classics.com/

clagar777 · Post by **clagar777** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:57 am

tubaman5150 wrote:The closest thing I've seen is Cherry Classics excerpt CD.
Find it here: http://www.cherry-classics.com/

This is a great tool to have, it even has some original markings by the players that used the pieces (by the way, who used these pieces?

)...A good idea, since they have it as excerps for a whole low brass section, is to buddy up with a few guys and purchase it together (at least thats what I did because of the $$)...I think it is around 90 bucks

Clay

smurphius · Post by **smurphius** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:53 am

*sigh* I am beginning to see already that the best bet is going to be to drop $100 on a Laser Printer on Ebay and then buy a CD. Hehehe. I guess it's sort of convenient because as you want to work on something new, you just pull it up and print it off, but I'm one of those types of people who won't start practicing something without being to turn the page right to it. (No sly remarks please

) Thanks for those suggestions though. Anyone have any other suggestions?

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:27 pm

clagar777 wrote:
tubaman5150 wrote:The closest thing I've seen is Cherry Classics excerpt CD.
This is a great tool to have, it even has some original markings by the players that used the pieces (by the way, who used these pieces?

You would think that these parts were from the Vancouver Symphony and that Ellis Wean made some of the markings. However, I printed a part out the other day that had fingerings marked on it. Maybe they loan their music to the local high schools?

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:45 pm

Jonathantuba wrote:A good one book is "ORCHESTER PROBESPIEL (Test Pieces for Orchestral Auditions) published by Edition Peters, although it is very heavy on Wagner and supprisingly the only Mahler is the 1st symphony, 3rd movement solo.

I found this book to be geared more towards the European tubist as it contains lots of "high tuba" (ie, F tuba) excerpts and lots of interesting operatic literature that one would be far less likely to encounter in the United States. The book is still very much worth having, and there is a lot of good, really usable material in it, but it's not a one volume solution.

However those are just except books. If you require the full parts printed in books, then I don't think you can beat the Torchinsky volumes "Tuba Player's Orchestral Repertoire" published by Encore. Expensive, but the best. I personally much prefer to printing from the Cherry CD.

I have seen the Cherry CD, but have not purchased it as I find the Torchinsky series along with several other misc. books I've purchased to suit me better. I really like having all of the Wagner works in one volume, all of Prokofiev's orchestral works in one volume, Mendelssohn and Berlioz in one volume, etc. since it seems like logical organization to me and allows me to peruse them in full in my practice room. In addition, the parts are kept clean by incuding all of the notes at the beginning of each volume, allowing me to mark parts as I see fit. With the Torchinsky books, I'm also not paying for loads of trombone parts that I'm unlikely to use. I see the merit in having trombone parts, but think studying full scores and listening to recordings is more valuable than having my own collection of the other low brass parts, again, in my case. There is the Keith Brown series of books if you want to purchase trombone and tuba excerpts, by the way. Also, with the Torchinsky books you also don't eat through $50 ink cartridges (or have to buy another printer for the task) , a ream of paper, and tie up a computer printing them.

cornholio · Post by **cornholio** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:54 am

How much do the updates to the c.d. cost?

MartyNeilan · Post by **MartyNeilan** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:06 am

cornholio wrote:How much do the updates to the c.d. cost?

Are you threatening me? (done in best Beavis voice)
The updates are free downloads to the original registered CD owner. Gordon usually emails you a link every year or so. You can also pay a few bucks for them burned on a CD.
https://www.cherry-classics.com/

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:27 pm

Jonathantuba wrote:- A few of the pages on the CD are not clear images to read (e.g. a couple in Mahler 6)

You should let Cherry know about problem pages. He will fix them; but he does need to know about them.

TheChiefofStaph · Post by **TheChiefofStaph** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:13 pm

Jonathantuba wrote:A good one book is "ORCHESTER PROBESPIEL (Test Pieces for Orchestral Auditions) published by Edition Peters, although it is very heavy on Wagner and supprisingly the only Mahler is the 1st symphony, 3rd movement solo.

While this is a fine book, it only contains selections from various pieces and not the complete parts. So while it's a good book to start working up the important sections from, if you're looking to take orchestral auditions you will eventually need to invest in either the Torch books, one of the CDs out there, or parts straight from the publisher (in some rare cases).

TexTuba · Post by **TexTuba** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:15 pm

tuba4sissies wrote:So Cherry classicals has orchestral parts for tuba and trombone?

thanks
-van

Yes. The Cherry CD has the entire low brass parts for the pieces on the CD. It is a great CD-ROM and I highly recommend it. Me and my buddies used to get together and read through some of our favorite pieces. If you don't have it and the Torchinsky books are out of reach for the entire set, get this.

Ralph

Billy M. · Post by **Billy M.** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:23 pm

As far as I've researched into the Cherry Classics CD, it contains the tenor and bass trombone parts, important particular euph parts (no Pictures at an Exhibition sadly but yes for the Holst Planets and R. Strauss pieces.)

I do think it's the best thing in orchestral parts in conjunction with the Torchinsky books.