DCI Finals Tickets

THE TUBA · Post by **THE TUBA** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:31 pm

Yes, in 2000 DCI switched from only 2-valve G bugles to Bb instruments. (I'm not shure if the mellos are in F or Bb) The top corps have some pretty nice tubas, the corps without as much money use top action concert tubas with a lead pipe converter so they can be played on your shoulder. Some brands that make drum corps hornlines: Kanstul, Yamaha, Dynasty, and King are the official hornline sponsors for most drum corps. Check out their websites, and see how pretty their marching tubas are. This year, the Glassmen have a little tuba solo, and the Bluecoats have a segment where an exposed contra player plays a decending 16th figure. Not quite as good as the Magic of Orlando's "dunken" tuba solo last year...

tubaribonephone · Post by **tubaribonephone** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:57 pm

THE TUBA wrote:Yes, in 2000 DCI switched from only 2-valve G bugles to Bb instruments.

Actually, some time around 1992 or 1993, most drum corps started using 3-valved G bugles.

Oh, and by the way, Phantom Regiment has their 14 tuba players playing the theme from Rhapsody in Blue near the middle of their show. Now that is a tuba solo....or i guess soli but 'tis cool....... very cool.

THE TUBA · Post by **THE TUBA** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:01 pm

Oh, that makes sense. I was wondering how it would work with only two valves. I do know that some corps would march BBb tubas, but tape the third valve down to make a poor-man's G contra.

Come to think of it, how many DCI contra solos can you think of? Besides the ones mentioned earlier, the Madison Scouts (I think) had one in 2000 and 1998 and the Velvet Knights had one in 1992. There was a little tuba solo in the Cavies' 2003 show. Those are the only ones I can think of.

HashBrownJM · Post by **HashBrownJM** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 2:38 am

Josh07 wrote:DCI is stupid.
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I also like how he spelled "professional."

THE TUBA · Post by **THE TUBA** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:34 am

That reminds me: there was a short contra feature during one of the songs from Far in Away in The Cadets' 1995 show, and The Cadets had a contra solo to start their 2003 show, although it is barely audible above the cheering fans. In the Blue Devils' 2002 show, there is a little section where the contras play 16ths behind the trumpet fearure-very nice. The Cadets also had something like this in 2000, but the contra part wasn't as hard, and the sopranos switched between pressing the valves on their trumpet and their neighbor's to create a nice effect.

Lew · Post by **Lew** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:26 pm

Josh07 wrote:DCI is stupid.

Congratulations on a well thought out and articulated post. You obviously have the credentials to make a definitive statement about this.

TexTuba · Post by **TexTuba** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:28 pm

Lew wrote:
Josh07 wrote:DCI is stupid.
Congratulations on a well thought out and articulated post. You obviously have the credentials to make a definitive statement about this.

Well at least it was short and to the point. No ranting on WHY he thinks it's stupid.

Leland · Post by **Leland** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:07 pm

tubaribonephone wrote:Actually, some time around 1992 or 1993, most drum corps started using 3-valved G bugles.

The straight scoop:

DCI began allowing corps to phase in 3-valve G horns starting in 1990. They could do all sopranos, midhorns, or baritones (but not all three sections at once), and could do contras at any time. The idea for the gradual transition was to prevent a corps from instantly going all-3-valve and supposedly gaining an advantage.

Funny thing was, one of the two hornlines that tied for high brass in 1993 (when the transition was legally complete) was playing on 2-valve King G bugles.

Contras in G were allowed to have 4 valves, although not many corps used them. Those lower notes are hard enough to play smoothly while marching around.

2000 was the first year of Bb hornlines. Mellophones can be in F. There was no gradual transition -- corps could get a whole new hornline in one shot. No sousaphones, no slide trombones.

I'm going to be there anyway, although we probably have some tickets for our use already. I might go watch warmups instead, though. Watching Pat Sheridan run Phantom's horns through breathing exercises was fun last year.

Leland · Post by **Leland** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:06 pm

Josh07 wrote:DCI is stupid because it's over-glorified, testosterone-fueled marching band on steroids.

That's why it's so much fun..

me · Post by me » Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:51 pm

"I just don't understand the extent to which some people fanaticize about it" if you dont like fanatics you're looking on the wrong website. the amount of drool all over tubenetters' keyboards whenever someone says "alan baer" is amazing. seriously though, DCI is the same as any pro sport. pure entertainment but i wouldn't put too much musical stock in drum corps but it's as fun to watch as anything.

TexTuba · Post by **TexTuba** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:38 am

Josh07 wrote:Marching band is marching band. It's something that was designed to rally the crowds during halftime. It was never meant to become an event unto itself.

Drum Corps has been going on WAY before you or I were born. And to compare DCI to "marching band" is just silly. And if it wasn't an event unto itself, why do bands ALL over the country have marching contest and competitions like BOA?

Josh07 wrote:Let me ask you something, how would I know what "ageout" is if I don't have credentials?

I know about ageout. It doesn't mean I have the credentials.

Josh07 wrote:As far as my spelling goes, I say it's "PERfessional", and if anyone disagrees, they can meet me in the parking lot tomorrow night after school.

I disagree. Whatcha gonna do?:twisted:

Ralph

TonyTuba · Post by **TonyTuba** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:00 am

Josh07 wrote:
Marching band is marching band. It's something that was designed to rally the crowds during halftime. It was never meant to become an event unto itself.

Drum Corps has been going on WAY before you or I were born. And to compare DCI to "marching band" is just silly. And if it wasn't an event unto itself, why do bands ALL over the country have marching contest and competitions like BOA?

Comparing Drum Corp to marching band is NOT just silly. Its the same freaking thing. They walk around making pictures and playing loud. Its the same thing. Take this thread over to drum corp planet so we can get back to drooling over how great alan baer is.

porkchopsisgood · Post by **porkchopsisgood** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:21 am

UMMMMM....sooooo....

Anybody gonna buy the tickets?!????!!?!?!??

Leland · Post by **Leland** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:41 am

porkchopsisgood wrote:UMMMMM....sooooo....

Anybody gonna buy the tickets?!????!!?!?!??

That's what I'm wondering --

The rest of you, take the debate elsewhere, please...

funkcicle · Post by **funkcicle** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:04 pm

What a terrible attitude, for so called musicians to be so dismissive of a youth activity that largely involves... music. And I bet you're first in line to complain about the underappreciation of orchestras and the decline of classical music. Get over yoursel(ves)f.

ThomasDodd · Post by **ThomasDodd** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:49 pm

Josh07 wrote:Marching band is marching band. It's something that was designed to rally the crowds during halftime. It was never meant to become an event unto itself.

I think you should look up the history of Drum & Bugle Corps and the history of marching bands.

What became DCI was started by groups like VFW and Americal Legion as a summer activity for kids, most of whom had no playing experience. It was nat related to football at at. and the compitions have been around longer than the official DCI orginization.

Drum Corps has never been marching band. Ever. At the time Drum corps started, marching band was Militrary style, and the instrumentatuion reflects that. Sousa had woodwinds.

And you have it backward. In the 80's marching bands, particurally high school, started copying Drum Corps style shows. Marching Band is a simplified version of Drum Corps now, with woodwinds on the feild.

ThomasDodd · Post by **ThomasDodd** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:50 pm

porkchopsisgood wrote:UMMMMM....sooooo....

Anybody gonna buy the tickets?!????!!?!?!??

If I could get there I would. Just no way to maske there

funkcicle · Post by **funkcicle** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:53 pm

I noticed in my local paper that semi-finals are being simulcast at the local Cinema... that's pretty cool, I didn't know DCI was doing that.

Leland · Post by **Leland** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:19 pm

funkcicle wrote:I noticed in my local paper that semi-finals are being simulcast at the local Cinema... that's pretty cool, I didn't know DCI was doing that.

That'll be quarterfinals on Thursday night -- the theaters aren't willing to give up a Friday night of movie openings in order to play a simulcast of what they see as band geek stuff.

They were pretty surprised last year at the size & enthusiasm of the crowds that came, too.

http://www.bigscreenconcerts.com/subpag ... ventID=527

Tom Holtz · Post by **Tom Holtz** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:22 pm

funkcicle wrote:I noticed in my local paper that semi-finals are being simulcast at the local Cinema... that's pretty cool, I didn't know DCI was doing that.

I saw the live broadcast into the movie theater last year. Quarterfinals are slated to be broadcast again this year. Since it's quarters, you get to see most everyone. Last year went four or five hours. You get to watch it indoors, A/C, no bugs, big screen, ultra loud. Much upside.

I know a few theaters nationwide had trouble with the digital signal, but ours was one of the many with hardly a glitch. It was great. My wife and I are going again this year. We sat with about a dozen of the Marine D&B guys and their families, and we all enjoyed ourselves. The finals will air on ESPN2 this year, date and time TBD. I don't know if the usual PBS broadcasts of finals will happen again.

As for the tickets... I wish I could get out of town to make use of them. Somebody will nab them, though.

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