Giant Eb has arrived!

tofu · Post by **tofu** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 12:18 am

What would the fingerings be for the false tones on a 3 valve Eb horn?

Shockwave · Post by **Shockwave** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 3:05 am

Try using the same fingerings as an octave above. Forcing the pitch higher makes it more stable and improves the tone but it takes some practice. You should be able to just barely get a low Bb open, and it should have window rattling bass.

-Eric

Anterux · Post by **Anterux** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:15 am

Shockwave wrote:Try using the same fingerings as an octave above. Forcing the pitch higher makes it more stable and improves the tone but it takes some practice. You should be able to just barely get a low Bb open, and it should have window rattling bass.

-Eric

This is impossible or the sound is not good with all my horns.

False tones are much better in my case.

Lew · Post by **Lew** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:27 am

tubafreaks7 wrote:One thing I forgot to add. Is this thing a 5/4? At 37" tall, with a 20 " bell, I have a hard time beliving it is a 4/4, especialy compaired to other Eb's.

Conn called this either a "monster" or "giant" bass, so I guess that qualifies as at least a 5/4. The X/4 designation is not usesd consistently by different manufacturers, so I don't think it matters. I think that Besson calls my 983 a 5/4, yet is is smaller than my York monster Eb was (it was about the same size as your Conn, but with 4 valves). It's safe to say that yours is a larger than average Eb.

Shockwave · Post by **Shockwave** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 2:31 pm

Anterux wrote:
Shockwave wrote:Try using the same fingerings as an octave above. Forcing the pitch higher makes it more stable and improves the tone but it takes some practice. You should be able to just barely get a low Bb open, and it should have window rattling bass.

-Eric
This is impossible or the sound is not good with all my horns.

False tones are much better in my case.

That is for false tones.

-Eric

Anterux · Post by **Anterux** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:25 am

tubafreaks7 wrote:
Shockwave wrote:Try using the same fingerings as an octave above. Forcing the pitch higher makes it more stable and improves the tone but it takes some practice. You should be able to just barely get a low Bb open, and it should have window rattling bass.

-Eric
I tried it and it sounds even better than the fingerings I was using. I don't have to do much correction with my lips either, and the notes are clearer and stronger.

Well, good to see I'm always learnig!