Conservatories...

Mark Preece · Post by **Mark Preece** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:31 am

You can't do much better than Steven Mead and David Thorton!!!

Royal Northern College of Music, Manchester
http://www.rncm.ac.uk

euphoniumist · Post by **euphoniumist** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:26 pm

I second Steven Mead and Dave Thornton at the RNCM It will be one of the most amazing times of your life!!

ufoneum · Post by **ufoneum** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:07 pm

Didn't you already ask this question? People gave you some great ideas...

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joshwirt · Post by **joshwirt** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:35 pm

You really can't beat the experience here at the RNCM for euphonium. You'll have the opportunity to play with a fantastic wind orchestra, brass ensembles and one of the best brass bands in the country....and that's just at the college. Almost all of the euphonium and baritone students here hold positions in some of the best brass bands in the world...many of which are based near Manchester.

You cannot beat Steven Mead and David Thorton for teachers. The studio is also full of some absolutely stunning players and all-around great people.

The foreign language requirement will not be a problem here. Plus, if you want to learn, you can audit the many language courses that are taught for the opera singers.

Where else can you work with the likes of Steven Mead, David Thorton and James Gourlay on an almost weekly basis?!?!?

Mark Preece · Post by **Mark Preece** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:54 pm

joshwirt wrote:Where else can you work with the likes of Steven Mead, David Thorton and James Gourlay on an almost weekly basis?!?!?

...not to mention the new addition of Mel Culbertson too!

vurltuba · Post by **vurltuba** » Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:46 pm

How about Brian Bowman at UNT in Denton, TX. Dr. Bowman is a great player, teacher, and a wonderful person.

euphoniumist · Post by **euphoniumist** » Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:13 pm

Well UNT is a good place, it is not a conservatorie, at university you'll still have to take college algebra, english, and all that stuff at conservatorie its just music no academics.

ufoneum · Post by **ufoneum** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:59 am

euphoniumist wrote:Well UNT is a good place, it is not a conservatorie, at university you'll still have to take college algebra, english, and all that stuff at conservatorie its just music no academics.

Not exactly true. Some conservatories are attached to state schools, or private institutions. Degrees in education and BA degrees often have some sort of language requirement, and usually are consisted of the typical academic "core." - meaning reading, writing, mathematics, health, etc. Just because you go to a conservatory, doesn't mean that you don't have to be the "total student."

From the Oberlin Conservatory website - http://www.oberlin.edu/catalog/college/degree.html

- Pat Stuckemeyer

euphoniumist · Post by **euphoniumist** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:52 pm

Oh ok d'oh........the RNCM was that way for undergrads when I was a PG there. So I'll say european conservatories?

Aubrey Foard · Post by **Aubrey Foard** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:04 pm

euphba wrote: In that other post, I didn't ask about conservatories, I asked about colleges. I am asking about conservatories now because my high school credits don't exactly match up with the credits that state colleges want (missing the foriegn language credits). I had bad academic counseling in my old public school, I was told that jazz band/band credits are the equivalent of a foriegn language credit (they take the place of). At the time, we would have to drop band to take a foriegn language. Now me, and all of my old classmates who where in band, are having a fun time with colleges.

Dude... if I'm reading your post right, you're looking for a completely independent conservatory. In other words, a school that isn't a part of a university's larger body and has it's own endowment, board of trustees and president (some easy examples: Manhatten School of Music, Juilliard, Cleveland Institute, Curtis Institute). Problem is, none of those schools have a program for euphonium majors since the main focus of their instrumental ensemble program is orchestral and chamber.

If a conservatory is attached to a university's body through it's administration and finances, then it's not entirely independent. Many of those schools do have great programs for euphonium players, but the problem for you is that many of them use their attached university's standards for admission (like that ufoneum guy wrote earlier).

You know... these guys have made great suggestions. If you have to suck it up and take a couple of extra credits of foreign language to go to a place with a fantastic euphonium teacher, then maybe it's worth the effort? I mean, feel free to disagree with me if you want, but aren't having a great teacher that you work well with and being at a place that you feel happy at some of the most important aspects of being in school?

prototypedenNIS · Post by **prototypedenNIS** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:52 pm

Eckhart Grammate Conservatory of Music in Brandon Manitoba under Michael Dennis...

but then again, I've got sooo many students due to the dense population here...

just ignore me.

Jobey Wilson · Post by **Jobey Wilson** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:05 pm

Sometimes band credits will account for Phys-Ed requirements, but I've never heard of it covering high school foreign language requirements. Wow, I would have some key words for your advisor... You might be able to take college level foreign language at a local junior college, and receive concurrent credits for it; usually easier than the high school courses, too. Most colleges start up next week, and you can sometimes enroll up to 2-3 weeks into classes...I'd check into it...good luck...jobey

phoenix · Post by **phoenix** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:22 pm

Mark Kellogg at Eastman.

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Conservatories...

Can't beat Brian Bowman