The serial numbers on the 2J absolutely do not match up with the published Conn lists tying serial number to manufacturing date.
There are some threads with pretty detailed discussion of the history and manufacture of that model. Because TubeNet won't let me use "2J" as a search term, I'm having trouble finding them. Maybe somebody smarter than me can find and link them.
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so the tuba on the left - http://flic.kr/p/bJGmxn" target="_blank - is a 2J...J.c. Sherman wrote:Yup... this is a 2J... one of the best all around 3/4s made ever... I LOVE these things.
thanks! i appreciate the help...
and i love it, too... it makes an awesome roar in the low register. the only difficulty i've had is learning the C fingerings, and that is primarily because of my brain injury - http://przxqgl.hybridelephant.com/what- ... ned-to-me/" target="_blank
no s#!t... and it's currently being played by http://www.tspae.com/ its owner... so everybody's happy!J.c. Sherman wrote:That Eb sousa's the bigger story - what a wreck that came in as!
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Conn 2J CC tuba
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Conn 2J CC tuba
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the conn loyalist site also says that the 2J is a top-action, 3-valve EE♭ - http://cderksen.home.xs4all.nl/ConnArticle32.html" target="_blankTubaTinker wrote:The Conn Loyalist website is not very good at identifying these horns because most of those model numbers were 'recycled'.
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Re: spot the tuba!
As time allows I'm working on a web site that will live at oldtubas.com (nothing there now, so don't bother clicking) to try to sort out some of that stuff. Since I think about it so much anyway, I may as well think about it out loud and in public, I reckon. It won't take that much more time. Or maybe it will.
It's been a couple of weeks since I bought the domain and paid for a year of hosting, but ever since I've been moving my kids to various colleges. I'll get it up before too awful long,
It's been a couple of weeks since I bought the domain and paid for a year of hosting, but ever since I've been moving my kids to various colleges. I'll get it up before too awful long,
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good luck... i'm sure it's way more complex than any of us realises... which is why there's so much chaos now.talleyrand wrote:As time allows I'm working on a web site that will live at oldtubas.com (nothing there now, so don't bother clicking) to try to sort out some of that stuff. Since I think about it so much anyway, I may as well think about it out loud and in public, I reckon. It won't take that much more time. Or maybe it will.
now, the question is what is the tuba on the right? http://flic.kr/p/bJGmxn" target="_blank
it says Elkhorn on the bell, and it has been modified at least a couple of times. the lead pipe is definitely not original, and the 3rd valve slide is suspicious... the serial number is 83250...
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Pan American/Elkhorn E♭ tuba
Conn 2J CC tuba
Olds BB♭ sousaphone
J.W. Pepper B♭ tenor horn
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Conn 2J CC tuba
Olds BB♭ sousaphone
J.W. Pepper B♭ tenor horn
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Pan American Eb.
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Pan American Eb... cousin to the 14J.
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i don't know if it's a pan american... it says "Elkhorn Band Inst. Co. - Elkhart, Ind. - USA" which is actually engraved (not stamped) on the bell, and all of the pictures of pan american tubas that i can find don't come anywhere close to matching what i've got...J.c. Sherman wrote:Pan American Eb... cousin to the 14J.
and google comes up with nothing for "Elkhorn Band Inst. Co." but it has all sorts of links to"Elkhart Band Inst. Co."...
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Pan American/Elkhorn E♭ tuba
Conn 2J CC tuba
Olds BB♭ sousaphone
J.W. Pepper B♭ tenor horn
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Here's a picture of a Pan American Eb. It's quite similar to yours.
http://www.micgillette.com/equipment.php" target="_blank
Pan American was an instrument maker back in the 30's. They were considered pro instruments at the time. However, they were bought out by Conn who ended up using the name for student model horns. There are more Conn Pan American horns than just Pan American horns.
http://www.micgillette.com/equipment.php" target="_blank
Pan American was an instrument maker back in the 30's. They were considered pro instruments at the time. However, they were bought out by Conn who ended up using the name for student model horns. There are more Conn Pan American horns than just Pan American horns.
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it is, in fact, very similar...PMeuph wrote:Here's a picture of a Pan American Eb. It's quite similar to yours.
http://www.micgillette.com/equipment.php" target="_blank
i know they've been around for a long time, but my tuba doesn't say pan american anywhere... and it does say "Elkhorn Band Inst. Co."... maybe it was made by pan american and "Elkhorn Band Inst. Co." was a distributor...PMeuph wrote:Pan American was an instrument maker back in the 30's. They were considered pro instruments at the time. However, they were bought out by Conn who ended up using the name for student model horns.
like my tenor horn, which is stamped "J.W. Pepper" but was actually made by distin...
actually, it says "Elkhorn Band Inst. Co. - Elkhart, Ind. - USA" on the bell, but it appears to be a pan american...KiltieTuba wrote:Elkhorn, Wisconsin
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Pan American/Elkhorn E♭ tuba
Conn 2J CC tuba
Olds BB♭ sousaphone
J.W. Pepper B♭ tenor horn
Pan American/Elkhorn E♭ tuba
Conn 2J CC tuba
Olds BB♭ sousaphone
J.W. Pepper B♭ tenor horn