Alphorn

The bulk of the musical talk
tubeast
4 valves
4 valves
Posts: 819
Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:59 pm
Location: Buers, Austria

Post by tubeast »

Dad was a professional woodturner (one of the VERY few), and one day a pro frenchhornist brought a Bb alphorn and had Dad make an insert piece to change to F.
Those are the very fun projects that are more interesting than furniture feet by the dozens.
The hornist even came to try and fine tune the taper.

Somewhere I read the alphorns were also used as a means of communication among alps and even down to the valley. I have no idea whether or not this is true, but it makes sense to me.

In Brand, the highest village in our valley (Brandnertal, for those of you that go skiing) the community band features a group of alphorn players.
Hans
Melton 46 S
1903 or earlier GLIER Helicon, customized Hermuth MP
2009 WILLSON 6400 RZ5, customized GEWA 52 + Wessex "Chief"
MW HoJo 2011 FA, Wessex "Chief"
User avatar
LoyalTubist
6 valves
6 valves
Posts: 2648
Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:49 pm
Location: Arcadia, CA
Contact:

Post by LoyalTubist »

I believe that was Larry Minnick. But he is no longer with us.
________________________________________________________
You only have one chance to make a first impression. Don't blow it.
User avatar
LoyalTubist
6 valves
6 valves
Posts: 2648
Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:49 pm
Location: Arcadia, CA
Contact:

Post by LoyalTubist »

I was referring to the thing that Roger Bobo had made. (Do I dare call it an Alpine horn?)
________________________________________________________
You only have one chance to make a first impression. Don't blow it.
User avatar
iiipopes
Utility Infielder
Utility Infielder
Posts: 8580
Joined: Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:10 am

Post by iiipopes »

So, tell me, which pipemaker's tubes sounded the best, or had the best taper?

BTW - if you're montre8, who are the other three fonds du orgue - bourdon, flute harmonique & gambe?
Jupiter JTU1110
"Real" Conn 36K
User avatar
Kevin Hendrick
6 valves
6 valves
Posts: 3156
Joined: Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:51 pm
Location: Location: Location

Re: Alphorn

Post by Kevin Hendrick »

Bob1062 wrote:I live in Valparaiso!, and although not/never a student there, have played in the community band, trombone choir, and pepband (and I'm only 24, so it's not like I am a retired citizen of Valpo or some such thing. I sorta didn't feel right wearing a VU shirt during thegame. :shock:
I gotta ask the low brass professor about the alphorn, he's been holding out on me! :D

What was the concert?
It was the Community Band Festival on April 29th. The groups involved were the Valpo Community/University Concert Band, Clinton Prairie HS Band, Duneland Early Music Consort, and the Ein Prosit German Band from Kalamazoo, MI (the group I play in). Three of our members have alphorns, but one had a schedule conflict for that date, so he sent his alphorn to Valpo with one of the other members for me to play. The concert was in the chapel ... what a great place to play (especially the alphorns)! It's huge (roughly 4 second ring time). The faster pieces, of course, were a bit muddy, but the slow stuff -- WOW! :D
"Don't take life so serious, son. It ain't nohow permanent." -- Pogo (via Walt Kelly)
User avatar
imperialbari
6 valves
6 valves
Posts: 7461
Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 3:47 am

Post by imperialbari »

It appears, that some posters have a first hand experiences with playing Alphorns. Which I sadly haven’t, for now at least.

My question will be about mouthpieces. Even if I play a lot of different instruments, I tend to use as few mouthpieces as at all possible. Everything in the eup/bassbone range is done on the Yeo Signature from Yamaha. Or on an old Besson mouthpiece coming with one of my bassbones in G. Fairly large cup, but tenor shank.

I once negotiated with an Alphorn maker about a buy of a specimen in F. I wanted the receiver dimensioned for the Yeo, but the maker insisted on a wooden mouthpiece. He rather would make a wooden copy of the Yeo.

This wasn’t the splitting point of the negotiations. I knew the right price of the instrument, he didn’t. And I am not cheapish.

Yet my main point is about the wooden mouthpiece. Is the mouthpiece material really important in Alphorn playing?

Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
tubeast
4 valves
4 valves
Posts: 819
Joined: Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:59 pm
Location: Buers, Austria

Post by tubeast »

Is the mouthpiece material really important in Alphorn playing?
Well, it´s the kind of stuff that was around when alphorns were invented. Then comes traditionalism...
Hans
Melton 46 S
1903 or earlier GLIER Helicon, customized Hermuth MP
2009 WILLSON 6400 RZ5, customized GEWA 52 + Wessex "Chief"
MW HoJo 2011 FA, Wessex "Chief"
User avatar
windshieldbug
Once got the "hand" as a cue
Once got the "hand" as a cue
Posts: 11516
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:41 pm
Location: 8vb

Post by windshieldbug »

tubeast wrote:Then comes traditionalism...
I always favored cubism :wink:
Instead of talking to your plants, if you yelled at them would they still grow, but only to be troubled and insecure?
User avatar
Rick Denney
Resident Genius
Posts: 6650
Joined: Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:18 am
Contact:

Post by Rick Denney »

imperialbari wrote:Yet my main point is about the wooden mouthpiece. Is the mouthpiece material really important in Alphorn playing?
My one experience with alphorns found me trying to make a tuba mouthpiece work, but it was too fuzzy and uncentered. (Ray will remember this.)

The wooden mouthpiece that the owners had (but did not use) was more like a tenor trombone size with a deeper cup. But the players used euphonium mouthpieces. One player was a tuba player, and one other had some experience playing euphonium.

They performed a long way away from the Alps, so I expect they cared less for tradition than for intonation and playability--and the appearance of tradition.

Rick "who was embarassed by the sounds he made on the alphorn" Denney
Sylvano
bugler
bugler
Posts: 168
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:14 am
Location: Kingston, Ontario

Post by Sylvano »

I have my special order Eb (yes Eb!) Stocker Swiss Alphorn for sale at Baltimore Brass Company. It comes with a great custom gig bag and a large size wooden mouthpiece. It's a beauty. I'm asking $2800 for it if anyone's interested.

The horn paid for itself very quickly with convention gigs, oktoberfest and busking. It's a great horn.

Contact the me or the guys at David's shop.
Sylvain Gagnon
Kingston, Ontario
Principal Tuba Kingston Symphony
Music Director, Communications & Electronics Garrison Military Band
LOTP
bugler
bugler
Posts: 105
Joined: Sun Oct 10, 2004 5:51 pm
Location: Long Valley, NJ

Post by LOTP »

Which has the darker sound.....a laquered wooden mouthpiece or a plated wooden mouthpiece?
User avatar
windshieldbug
Once got the "hand" as a cue
Once got the "hand" as a cue
Posts: 11516
Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:41 pm
Location: 8vb

Post by windshieldbug »

The rotary, by far! :D
Instead of talking to your plants, if you yelled at them would they still grow, but only to be troubled and insecure?
Post Reply