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MartyNeilan wrote:
Greg wrote:I agree with Marty 100%
BUT...
Who can tell me where those directions take you ;)
I know...my girlfriend did her Master's across the street, so I am familiar with the area.

I was gonna give you bonus points for correctlyputting the 125th and Broadway station ABOVE GROUND (which is quite rare in Manhattan).
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Thank you! That was just the answer I was looking for!
There's just a couple things I don't understand... :oops:
FightClub201 wrote:The chromatic alteration results in two groups of two consecutive half steps.
B Cx Dx Ex F# Gx Ax B
How does one chromatically alter a scale? And also, you posted B Cx Dx Ex F# Gx Ax B. Aren't Ex and F# the same note? same for Ax and B?

FightClub201 wrote:This pattern of A2 W H H A2 H H is the pattern of the Chromatic Hypophrygian scale. The inverse is inverse of this pattern: H H A2 H H W A2
This one makes me feel stupid: what does A2 represent?


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FightClub201 wrote:For a "chromatic major scale", think of it this way:
The defining charecteristics of a major scale are the major third, and the perfect fifth
C d E f G a b C

So we will leave those intact
C E G
Major scales are also charecterized by the leading tone (B to C) which we will leave intact. C E G B

Now if we want to create a feeling of chromaticism and still leave those pitches intact, or best option is to lower D (creating a B C Db series of half steps). This is easy with the natural half step B to C. and raise F and lower A (giving F# G Ab series). Why not raise D and raise A to have groups of A# B C and D# E F with G alone? Db and B naturaly resolve to C, and F# and Ab naturally resolve to G. This is much nicer harmonically.
The C chromatic Major (Ionian) scale:
C Db E F# G Ab B C
Uhh... this doesn't seem to work for this scale though...
I really can't see how the method you described gets you from

C hypophrygian
B C D E F G A B

to

C chromatic hypophrygian
B Cx Dx E# F# Gx A# B


also, here's what I gathered so far:

C major [do - do]
C D E F G A B C

C phrygian [mi - mi]
E F G A B C D E

C hypophrygian [Hypo is a term left over from the church modes meaning that the ambitus (range) of the scale is from a 4th below the finalis (tonic) to a 5th above.]
B C D E F G A B

C chromatic hypophrygian [who knows?]
B Cx Dx E# F# Gx A# B

C inverted chromatic hypophrygian [reverse the order of the scale pattern]
B C Db E F Gb Ab B

F inverted chromatic hypophrygian [transpose the scale to F]
E F Gb A B Cb Db E
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