Is it possible... physically.

[Mike-ICR]

I hate to be a nasty nancy, but I have to disagree with you on one point. Yes, the performance standards are going to be fudged a bit for Ed. majors. But I think that, in many places, the level to which the standards have been lowered is completely unacceptable. Yes, I realize that some people can be great teachers without playing the horn. And I do know that sometimes, teachers don't get enough time to play their horn. But they should at least get put through a program that tries to make them into the best musician they can be.

Being one of the recording techs at my school, I get to record quite a few recitals. And plenty of those were Music Ed. seniors who were giving what is probably the last recital they'll ever play. To be quite honest, the level of playing ability showed by many of them was appalling. This is even at a school that prides itself on its music Ed. program.

Again, sorry to be a disagreeing danny, (I love thinking of those type of lines,) but this is an issue on which I feel strongly.

Aaron H.

I am a sponsor of the local music festival and attended the solo winds performances with high hopes. The High school students played better than the University students. There were even HS kids in higher categories than the University seniors.

[pierso20]

Yes, there are unacceptable levels of music teacher proficiency and acceptance in many universities.

HOWEVER

I dare say there is what many could consider low/'unacceptable' levels of ANY degree program anywhere to be found in the country.

There are "good" schools for particular degrees, and there are "bad" schools for particular degrees.

There as just as many schools that grant performance degrees or computer engineering degrees to students who are very unaccomplished in his or her field. Yet the schools still offer the degrees. And within these programs, even poor programs, some students still become highly accomplished.

I would have to say that there are many schools who have VERY high level music education students in the mix with very low level performance majors.

This is all really a moot point because there are students everywhere who are either succeeding or failing (whether passing or failing not withstanding).

So really, there are way too many generalizations to be made about this subject.