MRP-C Tuba worthy to pay $4,000 more??

[ldine]

As someone who regularly plays a PT6 and has played two MrP CCs, I feel like the MrP has slightly more consistent/easier response and articulation than the PT6. The PT6 still has that unbeatable sound.

I got to hear a tuba player in a major symphony play both for me back-to-back, which confirmed my belief that the PT6 has "that" sound. The MrP still sounds great, but darker (more like a BBb maybe) and with perhaps with less projection.

tl;dr You may find the MrP easier to play, but the PT6 wins on sound.

[Scubatuba]

First off, yes parts are available if you are an authorized dealer, if not, pm me.

Second Many believe that the Wisemann 900 wins in a 3-way competition. Uh, sorry but are you honestly comparing a Chinese tuba to a German one? And who is the third in this playoff? Wisemann makes some good stuff but the Chinese brass will never be as good as the German brass, period. sorry if you don't agree.

Thank you Idine- Dan's intent with the MrP was for it to sound more BBb like.
Thank you Curmudgeon- from someone who has actually played a GR51.....

[bisontuba]

First off, yes parts are available if you are an authorized dealer, if not, pm me.

Second Many believe that the Wisemann 900 wins in a 3-way competition. Uh, sorry but are you honestly comparing a Chinese tuba to a German one? And who is the third in this playoff? Wisemann makes some good stuff but the Chinese brass will never be as good as the German brass, period. sorry if you don't agree.

Thank you Idine- Dan's intent with the MrP was for it to sound more BBb like.
Thank you Curmudgeon- from someone who has actually played a GR51.....

Funny, I remember people saying the same thing about Japanese brass (Yamaha)...
How would you compare the new Chinese made Eastman CC 4/4 tuba developed by Matt Walters to German made or American made brass products? Oh, and I think that same Chinese company owns Shires and Haynes (flutes) in this country...how does Shires compare to German brass? A friend of mine back in the early '70's saved enough money to buy himself a new car that everyone said was junk...a very small orange car... think the name of it was Honda...how'd they turn out?
But at least I am writing this on an American Company product--an Apple iPad... now where are they made?
Never say never....we live in a global economy whether we like it or not...
Mark

PS. I have played the MRP CC & the PT-6 tubas...nice tubas.

[toobagrowl]

I have a Chinese bronze Clara-bell on my tuba...

bloke "whose photoshopping abilities are absolutely astonishing, are they not?"

cowbell1.jpg

You have no idea how much that made me laugh!

[tubacorbin]

Second Many believe that the Wisemann 900 wins in a 3-way competition. Uh, sorry but are you honestly comparing a Chinese tuba to a German one? And who is the third in this playoff? Wisemann makes some good stuff but the Chinese brass will never be as good as the German brass, period. sorry if you don't agree.

Having played the German versions of the Wisemann 900 and the Packer/Sterling F I wouldn't buy the German versions even if the prices were lowered to that of the Chinese versions because I think that for these two models the Chinese versions (at least the ones I've played) have better playing characteristics than the German ones.

So yes, if someone offered me one of the Packer/Sterling Fs or a PT15 for $4500 I'd take the Packer. Same for the Wisemann and the PT6P. But what do I know?

[Michael Bush]

....but the Chinese brass will never be as good as the German brass, period. sorry if you don't agree.

I wish I were clairvoyant.

Heh. Excellent point. Fortunately to know that Scubatuba is mistaken one doesn't have to be clairvoyant. All that is required is the experience of playing a few tubas (so say I, who owns one Swiss tuba, one German, one Chinese, and one American).

[Michael Bush]

Not sure you actually got my point. My point is this:

25 years ago people were saying Yamaha would never build a tuba of the same quality as Europeans. The Yamayork proves those people wrong, and unless one is clairvoyant, no one can accurately say that "the Chinese brass will never be as good as the German brass".

I got it. And I agree with you. And I could have been clearer about my intention to indicate as others also have done that in fact some Chinese tubas are already at least as good in some respects as some German tubas, so at this point he is already shown to be mistaken. What will never happen already happened.