Marching Tubas QUESTION

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Three Valves wrote:Being both a tuba player and a sailor,

the "convertible marching tuba" reminds me of the "motorsailer"

capable of both motoring as well as sailing,

poorly!!

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I used a convertible for four years. It was "cool" for about a week. Then I hated it.
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Letting the kids or one or two uninformed band parents make the choice between sousas or shoulder-fire weapons shouldn't happen. Stick with the sousas... for reasons that should be obvious. The ergonomics are better and contrary to what some might think... the sound is the same or better.
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mlorrison wrote:Thank you all! I appreciate it. I failed to mention that one reason for the possibility of switching would be the possibility of having convertible marching tubas that was they same contras can be used during concert band season.
Its hard telling what will happen, if anything. Just wanted to get some insight!
Sousaphones can be used in a concert band as well as marching band. Maybe not popular but....
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There's a lot to be said for having the center of balance for an instrument this large inside the body instead of above and to the left. There's less physical strain and better balance for easier motion. When you carry an instrument for hours a day, why make things harder for just a few seconds of flashy horn moves?
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I personally liked using a contra more than sousaphones. I am really short and 9 times out of 10 a sousaphone hits my legs when I'm trying to march its a pain and causes back and knee problems for me. Never had that problem with a contra...not the most important thing but it is a factor.
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After all these years the 20J site still has the weights wrong by about a factor of two. One might weigh that much if someone hides a couple of 24-packs down inside. Wouldn't put it past them.
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lowbrassmaniac wrote:
Stryk wrote:Jax State - 20J tubas - 20-30 of them, usually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uZaiTxDAdY
Oh yeah, those guys are gluttons for punishment :lol: That is awesome though..my lower back is cramping up just watching that! :mrgreen:
Remember: They are all age 18 to about 23. People do that kind of thing when they are young...
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As a high school student, I say get the sousas. Sousaphones don't have a lot of room for visuals but BBb contras need a ton of physical training to function with. Also repair guys are more familiar with them. The contras, even the lightest Yamaha ones, are still a pain to use. If you want to kill some high school students for fun, get them the contras. But they really are only intended just for DCI/DCA use.

Basically- Us high school students' arms are weak, get sousas or they WILL complain endlessly.
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Samcai8 wrote:As a high school student, I say get the sousas. Sousaphones don't have a lot of room for visuals but BBb contras need a ton of physical training to function with. Also repair guys are more familiar with them. The contras, even the lightest Yamaha ones, are still a pain to use. If you want to kill some high school students for fun, get them the contras. But they really are only intended just for DCI/DCA use.

Basically- Us high school students' arms are weak, get sousas or they WILL complain endlessly.
That's really interesting, I'm teaching 4 marching bands at the moment and they all switched over to the marching tubas from sousas and the students didn't have any issues in transitioning over. And any good repairmen can work on Contras, Sousaphones, Concert tubas, whatever is needed as long as the instrument is still worth repairing. The section leaders have their section work out before/after rehearsals with endurance/training along with the drum majors. I'm also seeing more and more bands switch over from sousaphones to contras every year.


The only obstacle holding the player back is themselves. Marching with a contra is more mental than physical.

fwiw, I marched with contras throughout high school and for a summer activity for the last 8 years.
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Remember: The OP's GF already has a set of sousas and is considering trying to trade them for contras. I don't even know if there are any instrument dealers who would trade straight across sousas for contras without some sort of payment connected to the deal. OP might try to find one.
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Michael Bush wrote: There's a reason unpopular politicians don't get followed around with a contra or an upright tuba.
Or play them themselves. On the other hand, check out this picture of a true Presidential Sousaphone of a man who really could play, with a link to a blog featuring the actual NY Times article:
http://tubapastor.blogspot.com/2012/11/ ... ction.html" target="_blank
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