Sousaphone Trouble
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Do the valves have a serial number on them? Is it the right serial number? Pull the second valve slide. Push down the second valve. Can you see if the tubing lines up with the valve? Same for the first, although you'll have to look in a little bit further. (If the valves seem the correct height when up, chances are they're not far off at full height)
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Pull out the main tuning slide and see if you can blow through the after-valve part of the sousaphone. Also see if you can blow through the valve section. That way you can see which half of the horn has the problem. (That is assuming that the tuning slide is after the valves on that instrument, and not in the lead pipe.)
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Just because air will pass through the instrument doesn't mean it's not plugged up. It's not uncommon to find pennies and dimes wedged in the main tuning slide that allow air to pass, but mess up the way the sousie plays.
Run a snake through all of the main tubing.
Also, check for leaks--a leak can make a horn seem stuffy.
Run a snake through all of the main tubing.
Also, check for leaks--a leak can make a horn seem stuffy.
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I found a plastic bottle of valve oil wedged in a used horn. The only way I knew there was an obstruction was that a magnetic dent eraser ball would hang up. I wasted many hours trying to get that plastic bottle out with water and a plumbing snake. The plastic bottle finally came out using small lead weights.Tom N. wrote:There are no obstructions in any part of the horn. When I put it in its case it was one year out of overhaul.
Sousaphones make great targets for everything--from pennies to cotton candy balls.
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Re: Sousaphone Trouble
Well, Tom... what have you found out? The "freak jury" is on the edge of its seats wondering what was causing the problem with your Suzy.Tom N. wrote:My Conn Sousaphone sat for 14 months in its case. I took it out to play at an outdoor performance our community band had last month and it just flat won't play. It is like it is plugged up. I've checked and everything is clear. It was fine when I put it in its case when I bought my tuba.
For six months it sat at the store where I got my tuba as they said they would try to sell it for me.
Can someone please offer a clue as to the possible problem.
Thanks
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Yeah, me too, but I'll do it for $950!bloke wrote:Ship me the instrument along with $1000. I promise to (at least) diagnose and (possibly) repair the problem. I'll also (if appropropriate) return any portion of the $1000 not required for the diagnosis/repair and return shipping.
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This certainly seems to be the only reasonable explanation for this kind of "change" in valves sitting in a horn in a case. Valves don't spontaneously wear down from lack of use. Very Fishy.bloke wrote:Six months of the dorment period was at the music store that was "trying to sell it for me".
Please do not name this music store!...
...but I would hate to think (as Conn model 14/36K valves are no longer made) that you were the victim of a "valve swap".
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I can't imagine the store where the sousa is now being fixed being able to correct .008" in piston wear with a lathebloke wrote:Six months of the dorment period was at the music store that was "trying to sell it for me".
Please do not name this music store!...
...but I would hate to think (as Conn model 14/36K valves are no longer made) that you were the victim of a "valve swap".



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Dangbloke wrote: You just aren't up with the latest developments in instrument restoration technology (IRT). If you had made it to the last NAPBIRT convention, you would have been introduced to the NEW Ferree's "valve swedging lathe".![]()
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Dan, Dan, Dan. That's what the "reverse" switch is for on your lathe. Dint nobody teach you nothing?TubaTinker wrote:[ Someone please find out what kind of attachment they have for their lathe that ADDS material.I wanna buy one
I tried it with some threaded rod. Danged if it didn't fill those threads right in, smooth as a baby's bottom! The rod was a little smaller afterwards, but I figure that no process is perfect...and it hardly made a dent in the swarf I'd piled in to feed the cutter...

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I'm thinking more along the lines of a time machineChuck(G) wrote:Dan, Dan, Dan. That's what the "reverse" switch is for on your lathe. Dint nobody teach you nothing?TubaTinker wrote:[ Someone please find out what kind of attachment they have for their lathe that ADDS material.I wanna buy one
I tried it with some threaded rod. Danged if it didn't fill those threads right in, smooth as a baby's bottom! The rod was a little smaller afterwards, but I figure that no process is perfect...and it hardly made a dent in the swarf I'd piled in to feed the cutter...

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