Besson no more?

prototypedenNIS · Post by **prototypedenNIS** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:04 pm

T. J. Ricer wrote:I think I may be the only person in the states who likes 'em, but for me there's no better sounding bass guitar. . .

we carry them at my work... don't worry, many people like them... too many people just haven't tried them yet.

tubatooter1940 · Post by **tubatooter1940** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:23 am

Can the new Hofners hold a tune? Paul Mc Cartney complained his old one didn't.

prototypedenNIS · Post by **prototypedenNIS** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:52 pm

was he high?

I don't get why he would have said that...

imperialbari · Post by **imperialbari** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:11 pm

bloke wrote:
tubatooter1940 wrote:Can the new Hofners hold a tune? Paul Mc Cartney complained his old one didn't.
As a formerly-accomplished classic guitarist/electric bassist,

I really never understood this remark about an instrument. Assuming strings have settled in - yet are not worn out - and the bridge and neck are stable, what in the world could cause an instrument to be put in tune but not stay that way (compared to other guitars) with there being any problem other than (incredibly easy to fix or replace) headstock tuning gears?

bloke "who knows that no classic guitar (nylon or gut strings) 'holds a tune' through more than c. 10-15 minutes of serious playing."

Having built a bass guitar myself and having been around the bowed string bass, I agree totally with Joe.

But are our own brasses any better?

I have a King 2B+ tenor trombone built in very thin gauge gold brass. During rests it gets cold cum flat very fast. During long entries it gets warm cum sharp.

When I find, that I have to change my slide positions more than I feel comfortable with, I adjust the main tuning slide accordingly.

The same goes for my more heavy gauge valved brasses: euph, tubas, sousas.

If the temperature conditions are extreme, be it indoors or outdoors, I will adjust the main tuning slide, whenever I feel, that I have to do too much lipping in either direction.

I am convinced that top-pro orchestral players have similar strategies to make sure, that entries under whatever conditions are spot on.

In my experience the horn is the most difficult brass instrument to play. But exactly in the pitch matter it has one great advantage. The general tuning can be adjusted instantly by means of the right hand position.

Klaus

iiipopes · Post by **iiipopes** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:48 pm

How did a Besson thread take a left turn to Beatle Basses? Oh, well, I do have to say that having played real 1962-3-4 Hofners, and the new reissues, that my style of playing does not fit. For me, they sound like pebbles being dropped on wet cardboard. Now the Rick 4002, on the other hand, and I did say 4002, not 1 or 3, sounds like a J-bass with attitude, and really rocks!

I understand that The Music Group is not completely liquidating, but that may be like Churchill saying he had not come to preside over the dissolution of the British Empire!

prototypedenNIS · Post by **prototypedenNIS** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:23 pm

Guys on the trombone forum are saying Yamaha has bought Besson... I haven't seen anything official yet so as of now, just hearsay.

http://forum.trombone.org/viewtopic.php?p=288720#288720

prototypedenNIS · Post by **prototypedenNIS** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:26 pm

bloke wrote:When is Steinway going to go ahead and decide to buy Yamaha?

I'd like a nice black lacquer 900cc euphonicycle.

I think I'd rather have Black nickel gold trim, lexan handlebars

Kevin Hendrick · Post by **Kevin Hendrick** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:33 pm

prototypedenNIS wrote:
bloke wrote:When is Steinway going to go ahead and decide to buy Yamaha?

I'd like a nice black lacquer 900cc euphonicycle.
I think I'd rather have Black nickel gold trim, lexan handlebars

... and don't forget the 6-rotor engine!

prototypedenNIS · Post by **prototypedenNIS** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:20 pm

and "plazuma" fused parts