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bloke wrote:Considering that this is an amateur situation:
quinterbourne wrote:I would tell the conductor (or board) that I will not play with that group until that individual changes his attitude or is removed from the group... or just resign.
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:idea: :arrow: No need to draw attention to ourselves nor to
offer ourselves forth as gossip fodder, when we are not the ones committing any offenses.
Depends on the kind of working relationship you have with the director. Also, how you say it is more important than what you say. I would comment on my concern about another member's behaviour, then allude to the possibility that I won't be able to put up with it for too much longer.
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Amen to Rick Denney's comments. Sometimes we all do something we would like to take back, we're human. It's those repeat offenders that are the problem.

I subbed in a community band rehearsal one time a few years back. The cell phone of one of the trumpet player's rang. He actually answered it and was talking to the other person in the room (as he was walking out). We could hear him talking on the phone while he was in the hallway.

When he returned, the director confronted him about it. The trumpet player did not apoligize (I believe that if he did, this upcoming messy situation would not have happened). He defended himself claiming that he is an on-call teacher and he needs to take these calls.

The conductor politely asked the player to leave the rehearsal. The player refused, continuing to defend his actions. At this point, almost the entire band shouted at him to "get out." I had never seen such a group hostility towards an individual in my life.

After the rehearsal, I questioned one of my friends, with whom I was close to, about the incident. She said that this individual had been a problem player in the past, that there has always been attitude and behaviour problems. Apparently this action of his was the straw that broke the camel's back.
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quinterbourne wrote:He defended himself claiming that he is an on-call teacher and he needs to take these calls.
While that may be true for a lot of professions, that's why they make cell-phones with a "vibrate" feature... :P

(although many trumpet players seem incapable of understanding how a rehearsal could concievably take place without THEM)
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I've been in the arse-hole seat here. I know how easy it is to let a bad atitude get in the way. I had a bang-up after-rehearsal argument with one conductor and it was the stupidest thing I have ever done professionally. I had thought that he was the one being more of a bunghole but I, on refletion that afternoon, figured out the error of my ways. I realized my out-of-line behavior and had to do some painful grovelling to show how sorry I was. After a few months of both of us showing true professionalism, the conductor and I became good friends and we still respect each other.

If this player is a younger one, he might not have this one figured out yet. He may even be salvageable.

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