I'd much prefer it that you were, so I'll choose to believe otherwise.jmg71196 wrote:NO NO NO NO NO NO NO I am not this person.
Miraphone 188-5U or CC Miraphone 186S-5U?
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Re: Miraphone 188-5U or CC Miraphone 186S-5U?
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Re: Miraphone 188-5U or CC Miraphone 186S-5U?
When you cut through all the other garbage in this thread (FWIW, that "other garbage" is what I think keeps Tubenet interesting and entertaining - but it's not what the OP was looking for), bloke's advice is excellent.
- Start watching for a good, used 186 CC (5-valve) for $3,500 or less (or 188 for $4,000 or less).
- Be patient while you're watching - eventually you WILL find a good one in that price range.
- Be prepared to jump when you find it, because if you don't, somebody else will.
Pretty simple, straightforward, and good advice. Both musically and financially.
- Start watching for a good, used 186 CC (5-valve) for $3,500 or less (or 188 for $4,000 or less).
- Be patient while you're watching - eventually you WILL find a good one in that price range.
- Be prepared to jump when you find it, because if you don't, somebody else will.
Pretty simple, straightforward, and good advice. Both musically and financially.
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Re: Miraphone 188-5U or CC Miraphone 186S-5U?
If you've got $5k, there is (was??) a gold brass 188 for sale on the board here. That should be an excellent tuba!
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Re: Miraphone 188-5U or CC Miraphone 186S-5U?
Just my opinion.
Stay away from the Yamaha 822 as there are intonation problems that make this hard to adapt to. My personal preference is the Miraphone 188 - I own one and use it for about 80% of my playing. I also own 6 other horns including a Hirsbrunner HB50 - I still prefer the 188 for most things.
Ask your future teacher as they may have a preference as to what they want you to be playing. The TNFJ really cannot give you the advice and guidance that your teacher can.
Just my $0.02.
Roger
Stay away from the Yamaha 822 as there are intonation problems that make this hard to adapt to. My personal preference is the Miraphone 188 - I own one and use it for about 80% of my playing. I also own 6 other horns including a Hirsbrunner HB50 - I still prefer the 188 for most things.
Ask your future teacher as they may have a preference as to what they want you to be playing. The TNFJ really cannot give you the advice and guidance that your teacher can.
Just my $0.02.
Roger
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Re: Miraphone 188-5U or CC Miraphone 186S-5U?
Yeah BAT's have a tendency to make you look like you over compensate.
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Ahh Bloke the trollin' master of the universe. 
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Re: Miraphone 188-5U or CC Miraphone 186S-5U?
Greetings all,
Just to help put to rest any fears/discussions/speculations... As mentioned by the "real" James Green, this young man posting is not my former grad student (who, by the way, did a spectacular job on his masters' defense and is now on his way to doctoral school). It is my personal belief that the gentleman in question is now beyond such tactics, and can be considered a respected member of the professional music community.
Best wishes to jmg in his pursuit of an instrument and James Green in his pursuit of a career!
TO
Just to help put to rest any fears/discussions/speculations... As mentioned by the "real" James Green, this young man posting is not my former grad student (who, by the way, did a spectacular job on his masters' defense and is now on his way to doctoral school). It is my personal belief that the gentleman in question is now beyond such tactics, and can be considered a respected member of the professional music community.
Best wishes to jmg in his pursuit of an instrument and James Green in his pursuit of a career!
TO
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Re: Miraphone 188-5U or CC Miraphone 186S-5U?
Well said Tim.Tim Olt wrote:Greetings all,
Just to help put to rest any fears/discussions/speculations... As mentioned by the "real" James Green, this young man posting is not my former grad student (who, by the way, did a spectacular job on his masters' defense and is now on his way to doctoral school). It is my personal belief that the gentleman in question is now beyond such tactics, and can be considered a respected member of the professional music community.
Best wishes to jmg in his pursuit of an instrument and James Green in his pursuit of a career!
TO
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If it had it would have been one of the best trolls ever outside of 4chan 
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Re: Miraphone 188-5U or CC Miraphone 186S-5U?
I think:
a) it was an excellent troll,
b) the troll was NOT the OP
a) it was an excellent troll,
b) the troll was NOT the OP
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