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bloke wrote:
Joe Baker wrote:If you picked up a stupid nickname in elementary school and never did shake it, you can get rid of it. Just be sure YOU decide to "change who you are", and don't let someone else decide for you!


Yeah Stinky,

I totally agree!

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If you only knew my real nickname... :shock:

Let's just say "Stinky" would have been a step up!
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MellowSmokeMan wrote: Go for the good grades if you wish. I found that part easy, but surprizingly unrewarding. But more importantly, give yourself a chance to be you. And take that ride wherever it leads.

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I identify completely with that statement. However I have also found that getting good grades opens up more opportunities to let me do what I find to be rewarding.
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As a college student paying for my own education I understand the pain of tuition hikes but wanted to point something out:
adam0408 wrote: 1. They ignore people ages 18-25 as a possible voting pool with actual pull in the "real world" -therfore, tuition hikes always resulting in more debt for students because politicians dont care.

there's a simple solution to this one: VOTE!!!! and get all your friends to vote too.
newvotersproject.org wrote:The Problem:
For over two decades, young people have been turning out to vote in declining numbers. Less than half of eligible young people between the ages of 18 and 24 voted in recent national elections (36.1% in 2000). These are substantially lower participation rates than that of older voters (+/- 70%). Surveys consistently report that young people are unconvinced that voting is an effective tool to better their communities. Since the strength of a democracy is measured by the participation of its citizens, particularly the participation of its younger citizens, this trend points to a troubling future for America's democracy.......
Why Young Voters Are Ignored:
Presidential campaign strategies emphasize a focus on voters that 1) will have a reliable voter turnout for a particular candidate, and 2) will be likely to turnout and vote for that particular candidate. This has been the conventional wisdom of campaigns for many years, and each year as youth voter turnout declines, the rationale is further perpetuated. Because young people don’t vote, campaigns feel they shouldn’t waste resources targeting young voters. As a result, more and more young people feel disengaged in the very process that drives the engine of our democracy.
because the lowest percentage of voters are young people. YOung people will be ignored. Many people say they won't vote becasue politicians don't pay attention but politicians don't pay attention because we don't vote--that's how it works.


Now I know that America's education is fundamentally flawed but whining about it on tubenet is going to do none of us any good so now I am going to go practice.
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You go, Amy. Well done! This is one of the older guy, who votes every chance he is offered.
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Joe Baker wrote:Let's just say "Stinky" would have been a step up!
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TubaRay said:
This is one of the older guy, who votes every chance he is offered.
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WOW 70% of adults are voting? That's news to me. I'd always heard 30-40% for a total percentage overall.

Southpark had a very good message about voting that relates to this kinda thing well.

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That's 70% of older voters.

I haven't seen the actual numbers, but if you're talking about people 55 or 60 & over, that sounds about right. Those older folks, especially the ones who remember WWII, take their voting rights very seriously.

(Forgive the following tirade; it really has nothing to do with anything that's been said by anyone here, just another one of my cantankerous, bellicose blatherings) I'd be in favor of anyone voting, as long as they spend time really studying to understand the issues, and make a really informed vote. I just want to scream when I hear someone the day of the election saying "everyone should go vote." AAARRRGGHH!!!! NO!! People who haven't been paying attention SHOULD NOT VOTE. I don't care if they're young or old, black, white or purple, men or women -- if you're going to vote, spend time studying both sides of each issue, and hearing what both candidates have to say. If you don't know what powers the candidate will hold, find out. Know their records. Know who is giving them money. You can't learn these things in 15 minutes on election day! It takes time, days and weeks before the election, to minimize the chances that you're being hoodwinked by a smooth talker. Only then can your vote really speak for you, rather than just being a tool in the hands of a salesman!

Uh... how did I get on this soapbox...? :?
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Joe Baker wrote:That's 70% of older voters.

I haven't seen the actual numbers, but if you're talking about people 55 or 60 & over, that sounds about right. Those older folks, especially the ones who remember WWII, take their voting rights very seriously.

(Forgive the following tirade; it really has nothing to do with anything that's been said by anyone here, just another one of my cantankerous, bellicose blatherings) I'd be in favor of anyone voting, as long as they spend time really studying to understand the issues, and make a really informed vote. I just want to scream when I hear someone the day of the election saying "everyone should go vote." AAARRRGGHH!!!! NO!! People who haven't been paying attention SHOULD NOT VOTE. I don't care if they're young or old, black, white or purple, men or women -- if you're going to vote, spend time studying both sides of each issue, and hearing what both candidates have to say. If you don't know what powers the candidate will hold, find out. Know their records. Know who is giving them money. You can't learn these things in 15 minutes on election day! It takes time, days and weeks before the election, to minimize the chances that you're being hoodwinked by a smooth talker. Only then can your vote really speak for you, rather than just being a tool in the hands of a salesman!

Uh... how did I get on this soapbox...? :?
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WARNING--this post may offend some:

Why not have a "real" literacy test at the polls? 8)

For example...
Doug's dream poll test wrote:Answer one of the following:
1)Who is the Vice President?
2)How many branches are there in the Federal Government?
3)Name on of your Senators.
4)Identify at least two candidates in any one race in today's election.
And yet, I'm sure someone would find a way to call that racist. :?

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Doug@GT wrote:Why not have a "real" literacy test at the polls?

For example...
Doug's dream poll test wrote:Answer one of the following:
1)Who is the Vice President?
2)How many branches are there in the Federal Government?
3)Name on of your Senators.
4)Identify at least two candidates in any one race in today's election.
And yet, I'm sure someone would find a way to call that racist.
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